http://www.italymag.co.uk/italy/fashion/desperately-seeking-tailors
Better snap up all the Rapheal you can Marc, and pray you don't grow too fat.
That old line to excuse dismantling apprenticeships and not training the young, "but no one's interested in doing this kind of work now."
Bullshit.
My 57 year old Athenian tailor said he had to pay his master tailor, in order to take him on as an apprentice.
He mentioned no one is learning to be a tailor in Greece because a tailor would have to pay around 900 euros per month, plus social security and health care taxes, coupled with the tailor having to slow down his work in order to train the apprentice (with possible complaints by client's that the apprentices' work was subpar).
He wished the government would provide grants to tailors in order to pay apprentices while also covering the above taxes. But I think the Greek government is now out of money
Last edited by Ay329 Michael (2010-03-10 21:54:55)
We live in a world where the banking plutocracy has effectively been acting as vampyres sucking the marrow out of the world economy, unchecked and unfettered for quite some time. Building evermore elaborate ponzi schemes to sell my daughters and your grandaughters future in paying them for their kicks they're getting here and now. They certainly don't want us to dig this champagne thing.
I'm still not convinced that no one wants to go into these industries - the reality is the opportunity, certainly for any kid of apprenticeship in failed nation states such as the UK, do not exist and have not existed for 30 years. See how monterism kills.
The end game ofcourse is now in sight, the mother of all depressions is about to begin, the UK and US effectively bankrupt.
Anyway, Sam, out of interest, how do you look after your employees, you inform us that you don't hire staff with experience, too expensive, wot? Get them young, preferably pre-pubescent keep them working 12-14 hours a day 7 days a week? Forgive me, but this is what we are led to believe that these "sweat shops" in Thailand and Far East are like that produce our clothes. Well, not mine.
I assume your operations are different with loyal staff, being paid fairly, with benefits, no hot bedding and vacations too? Do you send food parcels to momma and poppa san back in the jungle?
Last edited by Sam Hober (2010-03-13 02:26:24)
Thanks for taking the time to reply David,
No offence was necessary meant by the way. But there is a pervading image that our clothes and accessories are made in Victorian sweat shops in the Far East. And it seemed a good place to nudge a reply from someone who is running a business in that part of the world. Because that's what people think.
Ofcourse there remains strong economic arguments to relocate manufacturing to second and third world locations. Where the cost of labour is much cheaper. Across all industries. And has devastated the manufacturing base in the USA and UK.
I personally have a distaste to the likes of Kangol and recently Burberry moving rain coat manufacture to China. Tradition and provenance means something, at least if the quality was there and remains. Philip K. Dick wrote a whole book on the elusive quality and foolish value we give to provenance.
As for my doomsday scenario, its already here. Only 20% of the toxic debt has been soaked up and much of the trillions thrown at the banks is already sitting in offshore companies in the Cayman islands.
And life in Thailand is relaxed and easy, unless you're a poor peasant Thai girl whose sucking the meta-amphetamine filled cocks of Westerners in the no-hands bar for a living. And I forgot the DDT in the water table from the agent orange that was dumped at the end of the Vietnam war.
Still, that's unlikely to move you sitting under the pagoda contemplating Siddharta.