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#1 2011-04-19 09:41:37
- Gibson Gardens
- Ivy Author
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The new guy at John Simons
Respect! New boy on Chiltern Street, Guy, cuts a dash in his perfectly proportioned early 1960s-style Ivy League outfit. Saw him today just taking care of business with the perfect 1961 college boy haircut, Brooks blue/white university stripe, amazing 60s khakis, no socks and vintage wine penny Weejuns. Amazingly sharp, this chap gave me hope that the new generation can nail the look perfectly. How wonderful to see he has found a home in the most perfect place under the tutelage of the master of the style.
GG
#2 2011-04-19 11:43:16
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: The new guy at John Simons
I've only just met Andy! Time I took another trip up!
- Can we organise something? All the Faces at HQ for a chat, nosh, slurp? I'm credit worthy, I can stand my round.
Please?
Let's do this.
#3 2011-04-19 14:55:28
- Spirit of '76
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Re: The new guy at John Simons
this is a perfect example of the english approach to this topic. it combines:
a) historic re-enactment approach to dressing
b) slavish worship of John Simons
c) the view of Ivy as a look you're supposed to "nail;" in other words pure conformity
d) a sensibility that views bland everyday American dress as super hip
no andy trad could ever duplicate this kind of extreme narrow mindedness and groupthink
#4 2011-04-19 15:11:37
- Gibson Gardens
- Ivy Author
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Re: The new guy at John Simons
Spirit of 76 - a curious moniker : my 'english' sensibility views this as a punk reference, but that may be another example of cultural misunderstanding. You did not see what I saw therefore you have no understanding of what I am trying to communicate. My take is not 'english' it is personal - the kid looked great and I have NEVER seen an American look this good in Ivy staples. As for groupthink - well there's just me, Russell and your dear self who's been bothered enough to tap in a few feeble words on this subject. People who are interested in clothes, who are SELF CONSCIOUS about clothes, and clearly that must be any of us looking at this website, takes delight in care and attention to detail, and this chap who I met today had it in spades. Clothes for him are fun, an expression of his love for a period of style, and long may such unabashed enthusiasm be celebrated and applauded. Oh and the 'super hip' thing you mention - I talk purely about Guy's clothes. We hardly spoke. He may be deeply 'square' but he looked great. John Simons is great too oh yes indeed, a special person. I suspect you have never met him.
GG
#5 2011-04-19 15:13:26
- woofboxer
- Devil's Ivy Advocate
- From: The Lost County of Middlesex
- Posts: 7959
Re: The new guy at John Simons
'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'.
John Simons
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#6 2011-04-19 15:26:19
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: The new guy at John Simons
Last edited by Hard Bop Hank (2011-04-19 15:29:44)
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#7 2011-04-19 16:26:34
- Quay
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- From: the Gracious Days
- Posts: 545
Re: The new guy at John Simons
Only on the internet, and so often on men's clothing boards, is a report of genuine enthusiasm for seeing someone happy in their clothes (also know as having style) greeted not only with derision but also an out-sized, juvenile response. Such a simple thing to say "I disagree with your assessment of what you saw" but instead so much effort put into maligning millions of people (the English) with generalizations not so much sweeping as regurgitated.
But even so. Imagine, painful that it might be for a moment, that these four pukey points were in some way true. So what? Obviously the Lads of London have been having a lot of fun with it for a long, long time. Why rain on their parade, especially as parades are something the English do so very well?
"It is my belief that nearly any invented quotation, played with confidence, stands a good chance to deceive."
- Mark Twain
#8 2011-04-19 17:41:56
- Spirit of '76
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Re: The new guy at John Simons
the guy couldn't possibly be "happy in his clothes," since all he's done is follow the English/J. Simons paint-by-numbers Ivy orthodoxy.
and derision, juvenile responses and raining on others' parades is what FNB is all about
#9 2011-04-19 18:24:56
- Quay
- Member
- From: the Gracious Days
- Posts: 545
Re: The new guy at John Simons
"It is my belief that nearly any invented quotation, played with confidence, stands a good chance to deceive."
- Mark Twain
#10 2011-04-19 20:01:11
- Admiral Cod
- Member
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Re: The new guy at John Simons
Oh, goodness, someone has a crush. Can a box of chocolates be far behind...?
"You will find that men of style and their adherents are considered either political enemies of the people or reckless, gluttoness consumers while most live in squalor" - FNB
#11 2011-04-20 00:31:46
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: The new guy at John Simons
So who's up for a trip to HQ?
I'll be there & the plan is for as many people as possible to come out for a nice Italian with me, Ivy author J. P. Gaul and as many Ivy Faces as we can muster, JS, Paul & Sir John Lally included.
I'd like it to be a Saturday, if possible, & I need it to be soon...
Beyond that, let's fix the whole shebang up pronto presto & have some fun.
... Which is what we do here, sorry, Spit of '76... 
Jimmy xxx
#12 2011-04-20 00:33:59
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: The new guy at John Simons
Or is it 'Presto Pronto' ?
... Sounds like a Georgie Fame B side...
#13 2011-04-20 01:04:41
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: The new guy at John Simons
One for our newest troll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu4VIEolthY
Stick around ?
#14 2011-04-20 01:08:17
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: The new guy at John Simons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LswLS2MiSL8
I wonder if I'm on a roll ?
Much love to Hard Bop -
#15 2011-04-20 01:10:55
- Taylor McIntyre
- Son of Ivy...
- Posts: 342
Re: The new guy at John Simons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asDKkMHUjZg&feature=related
Clothes Mad ?
Clothes Glad !
(Vodka for breakfast becomes me...)
#18 2011-04-20 02:50:48
- Moose Maclennan
- Ivy Inspiration
- From: Hernando's Hideaway
- Posts: 4577
Re: The new guy at John Simons
#19 2011-04-20 03:04:29
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: The new guy at John Simons
might be just as well his birth year... not that I care...
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#20 2011-04-20 03:10:21
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: The new guy at John Simons
one thing, you could note, is that what GG describes a spot-on 60s look, could be just as well contructed as a classic timeless look, or as top fashionable, nothing necessarily associated with what GG sees.
It definitely doesn't sound like an anachronistic look, to me, at last...
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#21 2011-04-20 05:22:04
- Moose Maclennan
- Ivy Inspiration
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Re: The new guy at John Simons
#23 2011-04-20 06:11:52
- Moose Maclennan
- Ivy Inspiration
- From: Hernando's Hideaway
- Posts: 4577
Re: The new guy at John Simons
#24 2011-04-20 06:59:54
- Hard Bop Hank
- Ivy Soul Brother
- From: land of a 1000 dances
- Posts: 4923
Re: The new guy at John Simons
Spot on, Moose and AB!
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#25 2011-04-20 07:02:14
- Simon
- On A Mission
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Re: The new guy at John Simons
But surely the 60s Ivy look is back at the fore of fashion for young men? They might not know the history of it, other than its American but it sure is playing a part in the attire of yound un's wardrobes. I guess for a yank its got cultural meanings but in europe its a look, if its the first time you've seen the look, its a new look. Doesn't matter its been done before.
Blatant Modernist.