Last edited by fxh (2011-06-24 13:14:02)
I hate to say it, but there must be something in the Italian psyche that tolerates a level of criminality that most societies don't.
Do you think thats why it takes 12 months to make a pair of (perfect) pants?
Can't wait til I get there next friday. Looks great. I also hear you get the best Pizza and chips in the whole of Italy in Naples but setting fire to stuff in the street and throwing bricks at the police tops even that. The missus is coming but she can fuck off shopping or something. Don't want her round my neck when I'm bevvied up trying to enjoy myself.
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Anyone thinking of going round Naples for a look see...forget it. Its a spawling, filthy dump with some proper dodgy people hanging about. Service in shops and cafes is shocking-I had my bank card thrown back at me in one shop after use. In Rubinacci the assistant was tapping her fingers on the counter while I looked at some jackets (loose threads on some €850 jackets BTW) which I thought was very rude. In most of the high end shops the service was at best aloof. In Prada for woman the staff were helpful (not so in the mens) and nice in the Attolini store but apart from that...
Met a New Zealand lady that had a small gold chain snatched from her neck, taxi drivers are theives, had the same journey three times, prices varied from €40 to €55. Everyone drives like complete nutters and crossing the road is a challenge, cars and scooters with dents or scratches must make up 50% of traffic.
We had a guy peering at us though a restaurant window rubbing his belly and looking like he was going to burst into tears Meister. I've had better looking dogs begging at the table. I've never seen so many beggars in a city. I've enjoyed everywhere I've been in Italy, but Naples is the pits. The bank card incident left me incensed as did the woman in Rubinacci. It rained on one of the days we were there and many people on scooters rode while holding umbrellas, I think that sums up the locals road sense. I went to have a suit made by Sartoria Sabino, and that in complete contast was a fantastic experience.
I,m surprised that a New Zealander could afford a gold necklace , let alone wear it anywhere other than on the ankle, right near the tattoo
She (the New Zealander) was robbed near the train station. By the time she and her husband had found a cop who'd got another cop that could speak English to the scene there was 15 minutes left till their train left for Rome. This wasn't enough time to file the report so it was decided that should be done in Rome. If it was me I wouldn't bother. Even the police give the impression they don't give a toss, swanning about with ciggies hanging out their mouths. In the end I had to remind myself I was in western Europe still.
*I once dated a South African girl and she told me no one stops at lights in the night in Johannesburg.
As I keep on reminding people and organizations when dealing with foreign individuals and suppliers is never, ever underestimate cultural differences and sensitivities.
Italy is a case in point, a curious Arabesque nation filled to the brim with corruption and nationalistic pride not to mention egos that can throw a tantrum over any perceived sleight.
An example of the Italian psyche: two candidates turn-up for an interview for a supervisory position. One candidate is a legitimate hard working family man with proven academic and vocational qualifications and verified references. The other is found to have been incarcerated in the Bangkok Hilton for ten years for smuggling meta-amphetamines, who has subsequently changed his name by deed-poll, all qualifications are fake and has never worked the industry before. Generally, the illegitimate candidate will be chosen as it is viewed as a badge of honour to have booked the system and also, such a man will be open to skullduggery with your good self.
This is how Italy, does or doesn't work. And with Italy starting to financially wobble, should the rest of the EU decide to throw money at it, then this will be the biggest mistake ever, as that money will be snorted up the noses of cronies, sycophants and whores of misfortune.
Now the Italians are an industrious nation for sure, and the Brits are prone to gazing on Italy in rose tinted spectacles in a state of bewildered enchantment at its style and seemingly endless sprezza. Scratch beneath the surface though, and its one dirty obnoxious nation, much like the shallow and corrupt modern day Britain itself. Both of these nations look at each other in exotic awe, failing to recognise its a mirror they're really looking at.
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Re visiting Scafora sounds like the backstreets of Mumbai/Bombay.
Eh,eh...
Now you know why Naples have still so many tailors..
Because his economy is less developed.
Now,the actual situation with garbage and other is only a sad moment in history of the City,not the normality
(think for exemple to New York in 70s,and its problems).
But Naples is Naples,is light and shadow,
So,if don't like are many others Italian Cities and many others tailors.
Rome,Florence,Bologna,Milan,Venice.....
For the rest,yes, the moral of we Italians is "Italian style".
and nothing illusion,no change,never.
So i can understand that many are not ease with this.
Oh,well the world is large,are many others places.
Last night Public Broadcasting aired a detective story featuring the character Aurelio Zen, a Venetian detective working in Rome.
Lots of twists, turns and Machiavellian plots.
I wondered if, when it first aired, there was any criticism voiced by the Italian community in Britain.
Well, the show portrayed the entire Italian system as fundamentally corrupt
I suppose that if you're an Italian it's just 'water off a duck's back' but here in the States there's always some group of Italian - Americans complaining about their portrayal in the media and shows like The Soprano's etc