Our government building has just been bombed. Why the fuck would anyone want to do this to Norway? The most open state in the world, a land that gives more in aid around the world per head than any other and has never declared war on anyone. Its just so sad.
You're seriously asking that question ? Do you think the Lutherans did this ?
" While Norway has seen little political violence in recent years, the country has a small fighting contingent in Afghanistan and was one of several countries cited by Ayman al-Zawahri, the Al Qaeda leader, as potential targets for attack. In 2006, Norwegian newspapers reprinted Danish cartoons that angered Muslims by lampooning the Prophet Muhammad.
Three Norwegian men were arrested in July 2010 on suspicion of terrorism and were said to be a terrorist “node” in a larger global network, American counterterrorism officials said at the time.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/wo...23oslo.html?hp "
^ Its a bit early yet.
Two days ago the Norwegian government announced it was about to indict one of last July's al-Qaeda terrorism plot jihadists.
And BTW - Who else does this kind of stuff ? If this was Northern Ireland or Basque country you might have a point.
So you're thinking it's Viking Separatists ?
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I don't doubt who's behind it, but theres been a big effort by the musim population here to renonce violence. Inviting people into their homes and mosques openly via facebook and T.V adverts. There hasn't been the sense of devide that other nations have suffered from. I supose thats all going to change now.
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A man allegedly dressed as a Police officer opened fire at a camp meeting where the PM was due to speak today.
From Reuter's via Twitter
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Five injured in shooting at youth camp of ruling Labour party near Oslo - NRK state TV
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( Four Confirmed Dead )
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Norway police say some shots fired near Oslo at a youth meeting after blast in capital
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' ... A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces’ presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad. “We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations,” the group said, according to Mr. McCants’ translation, apparently referring to a bombing in Sweden in December 2010. “What you see is only the beginning, and there is more to come.” ... '
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?hp
At least 30 kids were killed at the summer camp
NSFW article link below with an image of at least 8 dead kids
Headlines Read:
Eyewitness: - So, at least 30 killed in Utøya
Eyewitness reports dozens killed in Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya. - We saw many dead in the water, says a witness told NRK.
http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/110722/alvorlig-situasjon-pa-utoya
The gunman at the summer camp is norwegian, police belive theres a link between the incidents. The man was observed in the city center earlier in the day.
I've been watching a few Twitter feeds out of Norway. The feeds say that the police have stated that the shooter and bomber are the same person, a 32 year old Norwegian with an alleged Oslo accent.
There seems to be confusion whether the man is a 'Norwegian citizen' or ethnically Norwegian.
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Reports here suggest he's ethnically Norwegian. He's from the west of Oslo and the police are searching his flat at this moment. 9 years ago there was a neo-nazi arrested and caught with automatic guns, a kilo of explosive and 2 police uniforms. He's 32 this year.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article231455.ece
In 1998 he was arrested for violence against anti-racists.
My wife works in the center and her building shook from the blast with people thrown onto the floor. She walked home though Gronland which is where the muslim community resides, she said there were groups of men and women openingly weeping in the streets. I guess they were fearful of a change in attitude towards them. More so because of their communites efforts to be seen to renonce violence. We're a very liberal country, very peaceful. The youth camp where kids were killed takes place every year and Labour ministers just sit around with the kids and talk. Theres no platforms. There has, on average, been 40 murders a year for the last 50 years from a population of 5 million. Really, I can't stress enough how much this is a shock to such a peaceful country.
Last edited by Simon (2011-07-22 17:01:01)
Its not the same guy, but he is a neo-nazi. An active member of right-wing forums and has a company that grows vegetables so I guess the car bomb was made with fertilizer. His photo is on the news now.
The latest talk is over 100 dead and a right wing nutter acting alone. I blame those muslims
In the last three years all the reported rapes in Oslo have been from one community alone. Interesting.
All the gangs in the North of England who are targetting vulnerable young girls and plying them with drugs and pimping them out are from one community. Yet all the British media insist on declaring the perpetrators as Asian. If I was a Hindu or Sikh I would be really pissed off at this.
There's a backlash coming against political correctness that has been forced down our throats for the last twenty-odd years. The kids are waking up to this fact, along with deminished opportunities that their parents and grandparents had guaranteed.
It looks like a right wing nut in this instance, but it could have been easily our Islamist friends throwing a tantrum over some perceived sleight or cartoon. Grow-up and live in modernity is the message we should be sending instead of constant appeasement and sharia by the back door.
Here he is in a Freemason's outfit:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017851/Norway-attacks-gunman-Anders-Behring-Breivik-right-wing-extremist-hated-Muslims.html
Fountain pen in the top pocket is not a good look. I was expecting a Rutger Hauer/Dolph Lungren style villain beloved of Hollywood Hebrew casting directors.
Popped collars and Lacoste jumpers ? Bad facial hair too.
A religious Christian extreme nutcase, the thing he hated most for its bigotry was the one thing he had already embraced.