Last edited by Oo Bop Sh'bam (2011-08-31 06:49:45)
Much rather discuss the art of dressing well. I need all the help I can get. Dressing like a tramp comes naturally to me.
Yeah, I can understand that. I just think there is an art to mis-matching like the above explains quite well. I've concentrated on co-ordinating for quite a while, and after seeing a few images, if the fit and cut is good, you can't start to get away with things you otherwise couldn't. I don't see it being done in many other styles the Ivy.
Seriously, you will find many have an inbuilt aversion to this kind of thing. Woody Allen pulls it off - in the movies anyway - because his character is a neb (albeit one who gets to bed with impossibly beautiful women). Matthau actually looked pretty Ivy in a straightforward way before he became known as a (horribly overrated) comedy character actor. I'm saying nothing about Bill Evans.
I don't know, I think the margin for error is greater, so to get something that works that shouldn't, should be a testament to mis-matching. Whether it's through hopelessness or design. Who cares. I like the outcomes.
They all have bad long hair there, especially Allen and Evans. That doesn't help either.
Yes mismatching can work if the all the ingredients are good by themselves. Yesterday I went to walk the cat, haphazardly dressed all dull in light grey crewneck, khaki pants and off white shoes. A beige nightmare, I pulled it off.
I remember from an episode of Fraiser when he explains his apartments interior being a certain style (can't remember the name), basically along the lines of what you said, with things all of their own interest and quality they should work together even if not matching. Clothes obviously a bit different from interiors, but maybe it is a similar idea, or maybe its more like Matisse's pretty out there pattern matching he used to do in his paintings. Like I said, god knows, I just find it really interesting when it works. More so than a uniformed outfit.
I guess this thread ties in to some extent with that on Woody.
Here's an idea: Isaac or Yale?
I think the notion of dismissing 'sprezzatura' was an interesting one. (I'd prefer to forget all about 'geek chic' - reminds me too much of Britpop). 'The art of dressing badly' might come more easily to certain Americans than to many an Englishman (often, more specifically, Londoner) who prided himself, once he reached a certain age, on choosing his own clothing: maybe teaming a Harrington, Levis and loafers for that first, 'sharp' look. There are some it never leaves. Can't imagine Chris_H or Uncle Ian deliberately dressing badly. But a certain kind of American, keen on, say, 'resort wear', might pull it off. And I rather admire that. I once dressed 'American' rather more obviously than I do now: more Madras and seersucker; more obviously 'collegiate' items, even letter sweaters and jackets. Wouldn't do it now. The choices are still mainly 'Made In The USA' but are unlikely to attract attention. A pale blue shirt with brown cords and penny loafers? Kicked back.
Bop certainly spoke some cack. I find his posts impenetrable - like it's been badly translated into English. If there is an art to dressing badly then the UK is awash with creative geniuses.
Maybe he's now sharpening his skills on 'DressedWell'.