Film Noir Buff Style Forum / 'Beater Ivy'

steve mcqueen fan · 2012-01-21 05:52:01

Blucher · 2012-01-21 05:53:10

A hippy with a haircut your DI might have approved of!

Simon · 2012-01-21 09:03:47

Hey Andy, I dig a lot of Ivy gear, but not when its fucked. Wether or not people know your wearing Ivy style or not they will know your clobbers on its last legs. Not really a good look at all. Which is why no fuckers done a book called "Hollywood and the knackered look" or "Take Beater Ivy". Nobody wants to look though a book full of clobber with holes in. Its not cool and its not clever, just trampy.

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Liam Mac · 2012-01-21 09:10:19

Lots of the stufff in Take Ivy looks like beater Ivy.

Drink · 2012-01-21 09:11:45

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Liam Mac · 2012-01-21 09:19:56

Anyway...I'd rather wear a pair of battered but perfectly fitting khakis than those hyper rigid, can't get them wet after midnight, turned up selvedge denims that the bods on the Mod forum seemed to adore so much.

Nothing worse than clothes that are so rigid that they act like some kind of weird exoskeleton. I was once at Friday Street in Glasgow and a guy was wearing a white button down so high and so stiff that from the back he looked like he was wearing a neck brace. Then he started doing that strange little straight backed Mod shuffle shimmy dance that Sting invented and I was convinced he was in a full back brace.

Simon · 2012-01-21 09:21:01

Blucher · 2012-01-21 09:27:50

^ This nails one of the major differences between 'orthodox' (as it were) mod and a single element of Ivy. Simon, I venture, is not 'orthodox' in the sense I mean.
The Americans seem to have few problems with 'beater'. Some English chaps (maybe Kingstonian) would be averse to it. It is not so much 'rumpled' as 'crumpled'. The khakis will look and feel better after a few washings.
There are no set rules about this - it's only an idea.

Simon · 2012-01-21 09:27:55

Drink · 2012-01-21 09:36:00

Liam Mac · 2012-01-21 09:38:13

I know Soggy. From what I've seen of you, you're a different level to this dude.

It wasn't a post in anyway directed at you. You know as well as I do there are MODS! and Mods.

Liam Mac · 2012-01-21 09:39:58

Blucher · 2012-01-21 09:47:25

I have a feeling that Simon looks at the Soho/Ronnie Scott's era, not that of beach fighting and targets. Few UK Ivy Leaguers despise the old coffee culture: Soho before the fund managers took over. John sees a different, racier, more pungent side of Soho. Soho was where people worked and lived and lived and worked and lived and worked and died. It wasn't just about Dylan Thomas scrounging drinks or Balon telling punters they were barred.

Liam Mac · 2012-01-21 09:49:58

I'd say Simon looks upon target clad Mods the same way he does Beater Ivyists.

Simon · 2012-01-21 09:55:54

Liam Mac · 2012-01-21 10:02:43

Yeah it's a good night. I've only been a few times but there are always a lot of well dressed people there. Good music too.

Simon · 2012-01-21 10:16:26

Liam Mac · 2012-01-21 10:22:29

SurreySteve · 2012-01-21 10:38:38

Watching that was like a flashback to my youth - growing up in Woking in late 70's/early 80's....and not in a good way either.

"I just want to be different". Yes Charlotte and so do the 300 people you're with who are wearing the same jacket...

Liam Mac · 2012-01-21 11:07:35

She's young. She'll learn or move on. It's the 50 somethings who haven't moven't on who are really cringeworthy.

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SurreySteve · 2012-01-21 12:41:16

Good point Liam. I've nothing against any of them - if they see the '79 mod revival as a cultural high point and worthy of preservation good luck to 'em...

Liam Mac · 2012-01-21 13:53:54

Yeah. I'm always banging on about not judging people on this here board, but I guess that's exactly what I'm doing when I say it's cringeworthy.

I'll just say then, that I wouldn't want to switch wardrobes with any of them. As long as they're enjoying themselves.

Simon · 2012-01-21 22:48:05

I took a revival mod to my shirt maker once. Took some work to get him to there as he wasn't too keen on paying £70 for a shirt that he could get "the same thing from tailorstore for 30". Anyway, once there he selected the most fantastic two ply in sky blue with a stripe half white/half pink, double button rounded cuffs and rounded tab collar ( none of that press stud rubbish mind, proper cloth loop). After being measured and all the details written down he was asked if he like his initials on a cuff. He selected to have mod on the cuff with the top of the d made to look like an arrow.

Bo' Selecta!

Oo Bop Sh'bam · 2012-01-22 08:43:46

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oxford cloth button down · 2012-01-22 11:14:29

I think I am in the minority here. I don't like holes in my clothing, but on the other hand I do not like wearing brand new items of clothing. Clothes aren't as comfortable when they are new and are too shiny for lack of a better word. I bet I am more tolerant of pilling than most.

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