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i dont know about that noble .. i care about construction and im considering a pair of them! buyers come in all shapes and sizes .. conceed gucci is not just bught by shoe affeciandos ala eric cook or a st crispin.. its become a mass luxury item if that makes sense .. like rolex .. false exclusivity with a uber strong brand, backed by good but by no means fantastic quality.

shooey, you are pointing me in the direction of the 1921 loafers, they are interesting but look a lot beefier that the ones i posted which have a lower sole and heel and longer shape .. why do you prefer the 1921s? by the way they are another £100 more on top ?! also shooey i watched the video where you can see the sole being glued onto the insole, before being stiched, how do you go about replacing a sole like this. any ideas?

fruity

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probably turn out to be a pile of shiite anyway .. but i like to find out things the hard way .. shooey dont get too excited but heres a link to a vid of a cobbler ripping a pair up & resoling them .. might shed some light on construction? does it confirm your suispicions re cementing / gluing them together before blake stiching?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9He6TkGOco

For a little more coin these are quite nice and only a little stiffer than a typical black/cemnet (I tried them on). It is a goodyear I believe but they must be using thinner components since it certainly isn't stiff like their prestige oxfords.
http://www.johnlobb.com/uk/models/loafers/ashley


I have no experience with these and the ones I purchased long time ago looked cleaner and more elegant but have a look

http://shop.brunomagli.com/bruno-magli-medordo/543672/1136526

http://shop.brunomagli.com/bruno-magli-massyf/523998/1103516

http://shop.brunomagli.com/bruno-magli-molano/410660/873830

have a look


The thing with blake is that cement is most often used and removing something cemented means some tearing possible unless the cement is fully deteriorated or you submerge the entire shoe in MEK for a few days ( I did this to salvage an upper I wanted to experiment with - not for the faint of heart or those even slightly turned off by strong solvents)

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Gucci loafers remind me of barrow-boy city traders and Alan Flusser in long shorts.

When you're as mad as Flusser (he even looks like Einstein on speed), you just have to wear half a suit and trackies and sneakers and generally look like a Central Perk flasher to get your point across.

hi kebab, i went to a dept store that carries them in london, tried on a pair .. when i walked on a wooden surface i found something quite odd about them .. quite difficult to describe but basically the shoe sole on the inside edge dramatically curves into the foot, this is fine until you tread (as you put pressure on the foot, it squashes down and the instep flattens increasing the amount of foot surface area to spread your weight across a wider area) .. there is no where for the instep to squash into so it feels like you are walking on half a shoe sole (the right side on the right foot and vice versa on the left). this was a sticking point and i didnt go through with purchase.. might go back and see if other similar models have the same issue (didnt have time before i had to be at a dinner in town) .. i suspect it will be the case as the soles all have the same shape. 

the issue is that the foot is a different shape when there is weight bearing on it to the shape it is usually, to build a shoe without consideration of how the shape will be when weight bears down on it seems daft?! perhaps style trumps practical orthopedic concerns and gucci feels it looks prettier, i dont know?

fruity

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