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#226 2013-11-16 10:12:29
- formby
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Re: A Pox On Youth Subcultures !
^
I didn't say it was creepy.
I posted a definition of the word 'cult' earlier.
The problem with certain words is that they can be loaded.
On a different key.
The Ivy forum seems to take its reference points from the past. Take the Tech Ivy thread for example. Again this is just an observation.
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#227 2013-11-16 10:29:01
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Its kinda weird that you can go to ska nights these days and mix with skinheads and not end up rucking. I think the violence has got out of it these days. When I was a kid you rucked any one who was in a different subculture. You rucked anyone who was from a different estate, regardless of subculture. For me it peaked around 82/83. My mates were mainly casuals and we fought any one. Then you'd go up town and get into rows with casuals from other areas. I drifted into the casual thing towards the end of 83. TBH the clothes were better, I was never really "hardcore" with the football but got to know most of "the lads" that were. I think our generation was the first one that saw the end of rowing other estates. Everyone knew each other from the football. Riaz Khans book which I've spoke about elsewhere here covers this. I did get involved a few times with the footie and ended with two charges of violent disorder, I was already bound over for a year from an incident at QPR. Front page of the local rag as 16 of us got sent down. I got two years, out after 10 months on parole and that was that for me but really the end of the football culture came about due to the Rave scene. Suddenly you were getting off your nut with guys from Cov, Derby and Notts at places. It didn't always go without a ruck but it was rare when it did.
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#228 2013-11-16 10:43:44
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#229 2013-11-16 10:49:08
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^I missed all of that, as the rave music didn't resonate with me, so I couldn't get into the groove.
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#230 2013-11-16 10:54:15
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#231 2013-11-16 11:07:39
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#232 2013-11-16 11:08:49
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#233 2013-11-16 11:13:35
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#234 2013-11-16 11:14:03
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Re: A Pox On Youth Subcultures !
I see plenty of skaters around in gangs, and the emos have their own places in town where they gather en masse.
They are by no means threatening to me, if I was a little old lady I might be unnerved.
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#235 2013-11-16 11:15:34
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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#236 2013-11-16 11:15:54
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#237 2013-11-16 11:19:14
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Re: A Pox On Youth Subcultures !
Modern suburban America lacks the social ingredients that can foster real group solidarity. Everything is shallow and fleeting.
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#238 2013-11-16 11:34:16
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#239 2013-11-16 11:44:48
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#240 2013-11-16 11:50:45
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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman
#241 2013-11-16 12:01:54
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Hey Sammy, do you know Phil Saxe or Dennis Hawe?
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#242 2013-11-16 15:33:12
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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman
#243 2013-11-16 15:54:22
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#244 2013-11-16 16:01:27
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#245 2013-11-16 23:13:18
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Yeah, well done F! Shelley's. Lets get fucking mental! Think it'd kill these days though. Venus in Notts was pretty spank as well. That played a perfect mix of trance garage---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzDNA56mS5g
The tune that holds the most for me from those days is Nomad, Getting into the first Perception at Wisbech. After walking though a fun fair, getting up to the top of the steps they built at the entrance and seeing thousands grooving under that light show, already off it with Nomad playing on the stage...
"Magical moments are meant to be kept".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAZzZ4gbyug
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#246 2013-11-16 23:32:59
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#247 2013-11-17 01:50:24
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'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'.
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#248 2013-11-17 02:00:10
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I think the above is taken for granted. Most kids would probably be more upset to see their dad wearing weird clothes (e.g. anything decent).
some sort of banal legitimacy
#249 2013-11-17 02:05:58
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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman