I tend to agree with you Yuca this is idealised bollocks in my opinion.
Most of the southern casual guys were into the pop music of the day.

The East End was now turning to disco pubs from Stratford to Bethnal Green full of posers but wearing your MA jacket to football and then going to gigs was still all about being a tasty geezer. Then the pirate soul radio of JFM and Horizon etc exploded around the same time. The younger football lads I call the ‘Thatcher’s children’ started to put the colour into Casual, with the track tops, fraying the Lois cord bottoms and diamond Pringle jumpers. By the time I’d come out of doing remand and then a prison sentence from 81 and’82, that one-time geezer crew had firmly got into Jazz funk, Brit funk and into birds. Great days for the music of Southern Freez, Beggar & co, Shakatak, all them – never forget it. We all went to the same places but like as one now, with the black lads from Leytonstone and Canning town all properly on the firm.


well, that's from Cass Pennant if that's any good fellers.

This isn't Talk Ivy.
It was mentioned that casual had no particular genre of music that was theirs.
I did not disagree, but pointed out from my experience that I saw and heard. I stressed 'not all' to counter any issues re: generalisation.
The quote from Cass Pennant only goes to show that the soul and jazz-funk were the sounds of the times.

Last edited by Charlie Kasso (2013-11-17 16:34:09)

TBH I didn't separate the two, I was trying to define a point in time before casuals and football hooligans became synonymous.
Cass is right about the music, regardless of your opinion. Most were into the soul and jazz-funk of the early 80s. With all due respect, I stand by my post.
Why would Cass make up what music they were listening to on East London pirate radio anyway?

Most casuals just wore the clothes to be honest.

My own experience of the northern casual scene is that it started on the terraces but didn't stay there. It spread out. Lot of the kids who sported the style were into football (I wasn't) but didn't get involved with footie violence, primarily because they were to young and couldn't get to the games. London may be a bit different in this regarded because you have several big clubs in close proximity to one another.

Musically they liked what they liked.

And what were you listening to at the time AC ? (there was a comma after Chelsea)

We'll have to agree to disagree on this point then. Fine by me and I wish you a good week.
Good night : )

Good night Charlie and this is what i was listening to Yuca.

too shy shy hush hush eye to eye.

(url=)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbLYsuudJuA(url/)