I can report that YR has been easy. Friendly, responsive, and prompt. Received a nice email message today about being "jazzed" to tell me my order is on its way. I like this place. I'm not sure everything they sell is my style or would fit, but I like their vibe.

Good question, Sancho. I believe I've seen historical photos of surfer dudes in flip flops, and when I was a little kid in the '60s, we wore simple rubbery flip flops to the pool. Does that make them surfer ivy? Swimming pool ivy?

I'll buy that.

Somewhat relatedly... in the summer of 1976, there was an explosion of rainbow-like sandals all over campus. They had thick soles made of colored layers, and you could find expensive ones and cheap ones, depending on where you shopped. I bought a couple of pair from K-Mart dirt cheap and wore them all summer with jeans and swim trunks whenever I wasn't working (which was not often back then). They were very trendy but very cool.

Last edited by Chipper (2016-06-07 15:10:26)

Ha ha. Dirtbag/stoner/surfer probably fits for me and my college buddies back then. Although the surfer part was more wanna be than reality, in Iowa.

Sancho, in any case, whether they're ivy, surf, dirt-bag, or stoner, I'd suggest flip flops represent one's best warm-weather no-socks option.

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Stan, my last pair which lasted a good 5, 6 years were navy so I switched and got royal blue this time. Do you know anything about the Sundeks? Another Ca. company, I considered trying a pair but the rise looks way low. My Birdwells have an 11 1/2 inch rise on size 30.

I tried a pair of these J Crews but I'm going to return them. Nice retro look but the rise is a little low.     https://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/swim/65tabswimshorts/PRDOVR~A0701/A0701.jsp

I need something like that, that  can double as shorts when I need to stop at the store on the way to the beach. The shorter 301s are good at the beach but I don't want to walk around the store looking like Magnum PI

Good point, Stan. I've been a swimmer since I was about 8, including competitively in jr high and high school. I learned very early on how painful a foot sunburn can be.

Last edited by ForeignHand (2016-06-08 18:20:48)

/\  which t-shirts did you get, the "YR" logo ones?  glad to hear the experience was good for you, Yellow Rat has some fans here, I have always liked his stuff though I haven't bought yet, not because I don't want to, mind you, but because I'm very cheap ........