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#1 2019-02-06 18:06:18

Berkeley_Breathes
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Unforgivable sins

I've been thinking recently about my sartorial unforgivable sins. Here's the list I've come up with so far:

Cutaway collars
Loafers with any kind of stretchy material around the tongue
Low-rise trousers on suits
Ties that don't reach the belt buckle
Shiny satin and other cheap-looking ties
The color brown (except for leather, obviously)
Wearing the label of a jacket sewn onto a jacket sleeve
A zip-up sweatshirt under a suit jacket
Pointy or long-toed shoes
Putting your phone or other junk in suit trouser pockets


"The only comment a gentleman’s outfit should generate is that he is properly dressed for the occasion" - Calvin Trillin

 

#2 2019-02-06 23:03:10

stanshall
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Re: Unforgivable sins


"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#3 2019-02-07 00:53:29

Horace
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Re: Unforgivable sins

agree with both posts!  I was thinking about certain sartorial limitations I've imposed on myself over the years.  I've got to put that list down there when I can.

Some of the things, like cutaway collars,I'm in agreement with, though more for myself than for someone else who can pull it off.

I use to have a self-imposed stricture against cuff links, save for black tie.


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#4 2019-02-07 07:11:32

mhalat
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Re: Unforgivable sins

 

#5 2019-02-07 10:41:11

Goodyear welt
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Re: Unforgivable sins

Clothes made to measure that has a monogram, or initials on it.
Loud watches.
Matching socks with a tie.
Trainers with a suit.
Jogging bottoms outside the comfort of your home.
Jogging bottoms in your home if I'm visiting.
Black shoes with brown trousers, or visa versa.
Baggy shorts.
Seat of pants worn round knees.


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#6 2019-02-07 22:15:07

Ed13
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Re: Unforgivable sins

Some of my own rules I now break as I get closer to 50 and dress more casually;

cut away collars - I like them better than a Kent collar sans tie.  Don't have to always wear a button down.

low rise slim dress trousers - OK for dress shirt and sweater combo.

French cuff shirt - Now Ok with a SJ.  When else can I wear my cufflinks.  This was previously one of my most hated looks.

SJ and jeans - Easy when I am lazy and tired of people asking if I am going to a funeral.

For others I am no longer bothered what they wear as long as they appear to have put forth some effort to look presentable. Just wish people would clean their shoes.  Still my biggest pet peeve.

 

#7 2019-02-08 11:31:14

stanshall
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Re: Unforgivable sins


"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#8 2019-02-08 13:06:59

mhalat
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#9 2019-02-08 16:16:04

Patrick
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Re: Unforgivable sins

I have an intense dislike of tassels on anything except strippers. But I've never owned a pair of tassel loafers.

I fooled around with contrast collar/cuffs at one point. I looked like a wanker.

"Wanker" is a great word, by the way.


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#10 2019-02-09 00:31:36

stanshall
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Re: Unforgivable sins


"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#11 2019-02-09 12:11:10

Berkeley_Breathes
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Re: Unforgivable sins


"The only comment a gentleman’s outfit should generate is that he is properly dressed for the occasion" - Calvin Trillin

 

#12 2019-02-10 03:51:32

woofboxer
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From: The Lost County of Middlesex
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Re: Unforgivable sins

Not everybody shares our developed concern about personal style or has the money to indulge themselves in nice gear. So I generally try to avoid judging anyone by what they wear - with the exception of members of criminal biker gangs or extreme political organisations plus (as above) clothing with offensive wording on it. People who wear this stuff are usually hohos.

However there some faux pas that make me sigh inside when I see them:

-Middle aged mods with monkey jackets, parkas, targets etc.
-I don't mind low key tassel loafers but don't like ones with frilly bits (kilties?)
-Short sleeve shirts, worn with suit, collar and tie. This look seems to be favoured at my head office and is worn winter and summer, so it's nothing to do with warm weather. They think it makes them look more dynamic and ready to crack on with lots of important work and decision making.
-Wearing zip up thermal liners under sports jackets instead of doing the right thing and putting a coat on.
-Grey shoes of virtually any sort.
-Oversized watches
-Loud shiny ties
-People wearing sweat pants with normal i.e. non sports clothing. These are usually bum shufflers who spend their lives shuffling around shopping centres and other places of public resort, carrying cups of coffee and getting in the way of proper people.


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#13 2019-02-10 05:30:38

Patrick
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Re: Unforgivable sins

Last edited by Patrick (2019-02-10 05:31:37)


Otter : Take it easy, I'm pre-law.
Boon : I thought you were pre-med.
Otter : What's the difference?

 

#14 2019-02-10 11:05:48

Beestonplace
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Re: Unforgivable sins

Actually, this all ready as if finally people woke up and now follow my leadership.


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#15 2019-02-10 11:14:36

Goodyear welt
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Re: Unforgivable sins


Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#16 2019-02-10 11:16:32

woofboxer
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Re: Unforgivable sins

We are your zombie slaves Beeston.


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
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#17 2019-02-10 11:29:27

Beestonplace
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Re: Unforgivable sins

And: just because brown is part of Ivy and Trad (= two styles more or less largely worn in 1950-1960ies) it is still a dreadful colour, outside the Trad Ivy Reenactment Cosplay scene.

If blue, grey, green and black wouldnt exist, then yes brown.


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#18 2019-02-10 12:17:04

Goodyear welt
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Re: Unforgivable sins

I had no idea brown were so controversial.


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#19 2019-02-10 12:38:17

Beestonplace
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Re: Unforgivable sins

Read and learn. Other than leather good, brown is problematic colour. And no, we are not talking "a fleck of brown" in a tweed jacket, but proper brown.

And its not controversial, but simply difficult. IMagine a brown suit: it makes a man with white skin look sick, and a man with brown skin monochromatic. Brown shirts? Brown ties? What associations do you have when thinking of brown?


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#20 2019-02-10 13:07:58

Goodyear welt
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Re: Unforgivable sins


Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#21 2019-02-10 14:05:00

woofboxer
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Re: Unforgivable sins


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
John Simons

Achievements: banned from the Ivy Style FB Group

 

#22 2019-02-10 14:22:28

Beestonplace
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Re: Unforgivable sins

I challenge you to show a pic - from anywhere, other forums, bogs, whatever - with a brown corduroy suit which makes a regular person (not a profesisonal model)  look good.


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#23 2019-02-10 14:24:13

Goodyear welt
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Re: Unforgivable sins

Dark brown and chambray blue...sounds lush.

Choc brown roll neck cashmere jumper looks fab with mid-gray flannels, colours and textures are great together for autumn and winter. Whats not to like?

Its only differcult if you've no flair, not that its a flair colour but if you know what works with it...celebrate brown, brown can rock.


Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#24 2019-02-10 14:45:24

Goodyear welt
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Re: Unforgivable sins


Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#25 2019-02-10 15:21:22

stanshall
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Re: Unforgivable sins


"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

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