Graham is better than Bolton in what universe? At least Bolton seems to have expressed some moral misgivings about being a Trump toady, and Bolton having moral misgivings is one step above finding a heartbeat in a rock. This is the guy who justified dodging the draft for a war he has fervently supported by saying, "Liberals made it so we were going to lose anyway, so why go die?" Nice. But Graham revels in his role, sure he pushes back occasionally, but just to support McConnell, which is just as bad. No remorse. Someday he'll die smug, whereas I think there might be a slim chance Bolton will die scared, so that's something.

I'm not posting any of these people to defend or endorse them, just to discuss their clothing choices, something I like to think about as part of my ongoing ruminations about the intersection of trad/Ivy and conservatism (Exhibit A: Ivy Style and its readership).

I hear you though, Mikey, and I appreciate your pushback. There are people I daw the line at, those who have explicitly endorsed white nationalism and such of course, like Fucker Carlson, but at the same time I think there's value in thinking about these clothing choices... But I'm always open to hearing reactions and thoughts...

I totally see what you're saying there... Although I also feel like Bolton has always been this way, while Graham is more of an opportunist... Bolton has (wrong and morally corrupt) principles, while Graham has none. At that point, it's splitting hairs to say which is worse.

Berks you are one of the few people I've seen wear Guccis well so don't get too het up about that!

both those clowns should go away now

New York Times article about Evola

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/world/europe/bannon-vatican-julius-evola-fascism.html

What I find amusing (or at least I did initially) is that for years the comments section of IS was full of scathing anonymous criticisms of the What are you wearing photos on this very forum. Yet the selfies on the IS FB page have for some time included plenty of car crash outfits many of which are not even remotely ivy.

Fortunately there are also some nice, proper ivy posters. Hopefully they have now taken control.

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End of days imo.

Currently teaching Achebe's "Things Fall Apart" to my tenth grade class. Have had the Yeats lines resounding in my head for weeks.

The Southwick news is deserving of doom and gloom. Someone writing an article about how WASPs are problematic, not so much. And that's coming from someone related (distantly) to William Bradford.

Although on reading further it appears a lot of our favourite retailers are reliant on Southwick so it could have some far-reaching consequences.