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#1 2021-09-27 10:29:38

A Fine Sadness
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Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

I never could.  Even greater reservations than with Paraboot.  Too overground.  Even available once in a dump like Derby.

 

#2 2021-09-27 10:40:34

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

They're not the nicest looking footwear in my collection by a long shot, but definitely the most practical. I recommend that you get a pair and spend some days traversing the Peak District. Then off home to a hot bath and a nice chat on TI. (Not simultaneously though, for health and safety reasons.)


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#3 2021-09-27 10:44:00

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Grin...

 

#4 2021-09-27 10:45:38

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Paraboot I would love if it weren't for those damn tags. I just cannot imagine 1950s Lino Ventura or Jean Gabin with tags on their shoes.


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#5 2021-09-27 10:46:39

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Hence I've never bought a pair.


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#6 2021-09-27 10:47:38

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Tags can be razored off of course: as with a Grenfell jacket I was wearing about twelve or so years ago.  Silly tag on a top pocket.  Off it went - sliced!

 

#7 2021-09-27 10:51:04

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

I removed the tag from my navy G9 many years ago as it looked hideous. But there's no way I'm spending proper money on shoes and then running the risk of ruining them before wearing. What about if some of the tag cannot be accessed, leaving a thin line of material? They would look like seconds. Not worth the risk (unless I happened to find a pair cheap of course).

I'll stick to Rancourt and old school Florsheim.

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#8 2022-02-01 04:56:20

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Anyone know where they're made now?

 

#9 2022-02-01 05:01:08

Runninggeez
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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

I thought they may still be made in the US, could be wrong.

 

#10 2022-02-01 05:14:33

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

I saw a pair in a charity shop in Stamford around 2008, priced at around £10.  Can't remember where they were made or even whether they were my size.  I'd seen them on sale at Russell Street and taken a dislike to them - much as I was to do, slightly later, with Paraboot.  In the first instance, my aversion may well spring from the fact that, as a young manual worker, I had to wear boots on site.  Later, after obtaining my degree and training to be a teacher, I only wanted to wear shoes.  Does that make sense?

 

#11 2022-02-01 05:18:49

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Yes I get it. I like 'shoes'. In fact, I've just ordered some Portugal made Oxblood Gibsons with a danite sole, at a third of their normal price in sale. Been watching them sit there for months at a gimme price and nobody did. I don't do this a lot, but too good to let go at that price.

I've taken to the two pairs of Paraboots I got cheaply at the bay, but wouldn't replace them at full price.

 

#12 2022-02-01 06:33:29

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Leave it, reluctantly. I have no need for such a thing. So the threat of ersatz lumberjack looms. Wankerism. An unacceptable risk.

Years ago I actually had a need for some sturdy work boots and I found something called the Knapp farm boot. On those rare occasions now when I am actually operating some kind of machine, like a log splitter, and there is a good chance of something heavy falling on my foot, I dig them out.


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#13 2022-02-01 07:18:55

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

@AUS, I seem to remember back in the day, the Russell St shop used to sell Mack James shoes which were Portuguese made, looked a lovely sturdy shoe I seem to remember.

 

#14 2022-02-01 07:31:25

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Mack James - a pair of their loafers are being offered on Ebay.

 

#15 2022-02-01 08:28:29

Runninggeez
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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

I have to say these brogues that JS had were a lovely shoe, I would of had them but I'd bought a couple of pairs of Walkovers few years earlier.

 

#16 2022-02-01 08:45:55

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Walkover: the OLD tradition of Ian Strachan and the Richmond Ivy shop.  I loved my old FBI shoes very much.  They came in their original, rather crumpled box, with the receipt (1967, I think the year was), but they were just a little on the small side.  I remember wearing them with an Alan Paine grey cashmere v-neck and probably a white Brooks Makers and grey flannels.  I still have the v-neck but, sadly, nothing else.
There are some Walkover bucks on Ebay, that look rather like my old Dexter.

 

#17 2022-02-01 11:32:02

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Portugal still has a strong making tradition for clothes and shoes. Always worth a look when mentioned.

I genuinely think I now never need a pair of formal shoes if I resole properly, just casual shoe replacements in future.

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#18 2022-02-01 12:34:03

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

There's a photograph of Robert Wagner in 'The Hip', holding a trumpet and wearing what look like battered work or even army boots.  It's not a good look, especially at a time when most genuine players were trying - and succeeding - in looking their best: Miles, Chico Hamilton, The MJQ etc.

 

#19 2022-02-01 12:35:08

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

The Beckmann was a nice option (currently discontinued), little more elegant than the use al mocc toe style. I have both and have been wearing them since the 90s - they were a part of the acid jazz scene as I remember. Just had custom Dr Sole replacement soles put on my Beckmann as the originals had cracked. The black mocc toe are my all weather beat em up boot, they take it all and as perfect over the moorland or Yorkshire as they are walking through the east end from pub to pub.

 

#20 2022-02-03 16:10:34

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

Must admit I would never wear a pair myself but I get the wider Filson, Woolrich and Bean aesthetic.

On the mean streets of Birmingham I have occasionally spotted these urban lumberjacks. I suppose they're the bridge between us lot and hipsters in chore jackets, Patagonia and beards.

Didn't the Japanese guys term it Heavy Ivy.

If I venture out doors in muddy conditions or to watch some pointing I prefer wellies.

 

#21 2022-02-04 04:18:04

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Re: Take It Or Leave It: Red Wings

^ Seconded.  I have, for the garden and icy weather, some very non-Ivy rubber boots with steel toecaps bought from a builders supplier in Matlock years ago.
Filson has become something of a cult, I think, especially in Japan.  Heavy Ivy sounds about right.  TRS has some interesting things to say about work wear at Russell Street when he was working there all those years ago.
I still wear Woolrich when definitely made in the USA.  But, like Bean, they have gone in for a slightly dishonest form of outsourcing.  These items have to state 'Made In The USA' for me to take any interest in them.  Same goes for Pendleton.

 

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