Re Wolfe, do you think 'society' (I can't think of a more appropriate word) had already moved away from Le Corbusier-type principles of living towards something more human in scale? I often think of Orwell and his dislike of 'modern' estates (no pub, no corner shop, no warmth or vitality). So back the planners went, after the experiments of the 50s and 60s, to a more low-level type of housing (if not office space etc.). Wolfe, as I remember it, spoke of anyone who could afford it snatching at the suburban, picket-fence ideal over the modernist barrack blocks. The poor and dispossessed ended up there instead.
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I still see ugly modernist monstrosities being built in the Hague at present. And the Hague is an interesting city from the perspective of being a Medieval city that has been destroyed by planners and lacks any real Medieval character, in the way, say Chester and York are in Blighty. There's plenty of towns and cities in the Netherlands and Belgium that have managed to keep their character though.
Of course, you had the likes of Frank Lloyd Wright working at the same time as Le Corbusier, but coming with something much more appealing and often integrated with nature, the suburbs and humanity. Its the old countryside vs the city battle that's been going on for quite sometime.
The secret to being a successful modernist in the Ivy and Mod sense, is to be urbane rather than urban. Which takes me back to my vision of the Lighthouse club, Laguna beach, 1955, that unique West Coast heroin-tinged optimism clothed in East Coast jackets, ties and shirts. That Contemporary record with Hampton Hawes, Barney Kessel, Shelly Manne and the beautiful curvaceous lady in the swimsuit on the cover. By 1970 it was all gone, the boon years vanquished, the baby boomers at the helm of popular culture driving us head long into this shallow and pessimistic present.
As an aside, I don't see how modernist architecture relates to the Ivy look. One was born from an egalitarianism whilst the other was born from elitism.
Just fumbling you understand.
Yet not, funnily enough, others.
Jonah - just reading Baxter's biography of Stanley Kubrick. Guy often had a nice narrow lapel/collar roll look to him.
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Hung over?
I rather like your style, old chap.
I thought it might be worth bumping this ten-year old thread to complement TRSs comments. Only a couple of pages and, yes, with some blanks to fill in. But worthwhile, I think.