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#1 2012-07-16 02:56:34

Taylor McIntyre
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The Mood Of The Moment ?

I'm sensing:

Keydge.
Libertos or look-a-likes.
Mercers.
Madras.

And that:

Nobody really actually cares about Baracutas being 'wrong' or 'right'.


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What are you picking up on your Ivy antenna just now ?


Jim

 

#2 2012-07-16 02:57:19

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

What would you say is the shoe of the moment ?

Jim.

 

#3 2012-07-16 07:37:01

woofboxer
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

I'm sensing that now I would normally be wearing madras shirts, shorts and maybe a hat to protect against the sun. No chance of that with the awful summer we're having in the UK this year!


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#4 2012-07-16 07:51:54

woofboxer
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

I would like one of those single breasted lightweight stone coloured summer raincoats to wear over a shirt when it's wet but still hot.


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#5 2012-07-16 10:35:43

heikki k
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

 

#6 2012-07-16 10:49:24

Sal
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

Bean Boots (though mine seem to have sprung a leak).

 

#7 2012-07-16 10:57:32

heikki k
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

 

#8 2012-07-16 11:59:03

woofboxer
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
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#9 2012-07-16 12:04:22

One For Bop
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

I order a pair of them a couple of weeks ago, they should be in this week, if they are shit or not I will get back to you woofer, but my tassel pair stood the test of time, one thing I would say, heel is a bit high, not to look at, but you notice it when you walk.


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#10 2012-07-16 14:18:42

MarkCoyle
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

I have three pairs of Sebagos and they look great, wear well, keep their shape and come recommended from me.  I have both black and oxblood variants.  They seem sturdy too and in the beefrool versions I have certainly look good. 

I have three nice light shorter macs (black, navy, tan) from T.M.Lewin which are wonderful quality.    Uniqlo has a nice range of light summer short macs for £80 in the flagship Oxford Street branch downstairs.

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#11 2012-07-16 16:20:48

Richard Bergman
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

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#12 2012-07-17 02:13:34

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

All good stuff.

There is also the Cayman II which does not have the row of topstitiching that the Cayman has on the vamp, but is just the same apart from that.

They used to do a drop tassel loafer called the 'Kerry', as I recall. Also good as a variation on the Bass tassel loafer. Maybe they still do it.

The Weejun dates from 1936 with the Sebago (Beefroll) 'Classic' coming along being sold as Sebago 'Roamers' exactly a decade later in 1946, building on the success of the market that Bass had created.

- They're plenty Ivy !


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#13 2012-07-17 03:23:56

woofboxer
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
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#14 2012-07-17 03:44:57

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

The Kerry is very like the tassel loafer Sebago used to make for Brooks Bros too.

Jim.

 

#15 2012-07-17 03:48:40

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

I guess the 'Mood Of The Moment' aspect to all this is the taste for more substantial footwear rather than the currently flimsy Bass and all the other, smoother, lower cut options.

Jim.

 

#16 2012-07-17 08:12:38

Goodyear welt
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

Well I'm wearing Driving shoes or canvas sneakers, basket weaves on a saturday night. Sometimes I wear my PS camp mocs or Dessies by Tiger. The Barkers are never far away if its rains.


Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#17 2021-10-31 06:36:23

A Fine Sadness
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

Well: indoors or out? 
In: half-sleeves, cardigans and chinos.  German or Japanese socks.
Out: raincoat, long sleeves, v-neck, cords, PTBs, wingtips or Astorflex.  Sometimes a lambswool or cashmere scarf. 

Jimbo was good at this sort of thing: ever-inventive.  Then, as TRS says elsewhere, Ivy is a mood. 

Where is it conjured up from?  It is, after all, to some extent, like all clothing that is not 'the norm', something of a 'construct'.  Calling it a 'mood' is more appealing.  Get bitten by the 'Ivy' bug and you're done for.

 

#18 2021-10-31 07:58:33

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

Yes, mood sounds much better than construct.

All this talk about everything being constructed and ironic has made me loathe Uni.

Did I tell you the one about a seminar on Gangsta Rap?


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#19 2021-10-31 12:17:37

Yuca
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

What's wrong with a seminar on gangster rap?


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#20 2021-10-31 14:54:18

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

Nothing wrong with that seminar.

Yuca, you see, our Professor, Ms Sabine S. went on about two dozen times about everything being ironic about Gangsta Rap. We had talked about the concept of double consciousness, of course, and how Gangsta Rap was to be seen in the tradition of black minstrels but when we talked about misogyny, homophobia and the glorification of violence and Prof Sielke was still going on about everything being ironic, I asked a simple question that stopped her dead in her tracks: Do you think that people in South Central get shot ironically?

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#21 2021-10-31 16:35:44

A Fine Sadness
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

Bravo, Hank.  I had to sit through a lot of the same kind of bullshit thirty-odd years ago: black culture as spun by a trendy middle-class white woman whose claim to fame was that John Lee Hooker had tried his best to get into her pants.  I stopped attending her lectures, which seemed to be an afterthought.  Ditto with 'Invisible Man' on literature syllabus that was heavy on Henry James, Eliot, Pound, Melville, Wallace Stevens etc. 
I heard some of that dreadful music in a 'vintage' store (hip as all get out) only last week and paid some attention to the 'lyrics'.  My wife was already hovering in the doorway, waiting to leave. 
I'll stick with 'Potato Head Blues'.

 

#22 2021-10-31 17:00:36

Yuca
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

Surely you could do your own research and come up with your own ideas? A book called The Rap on Gangsta Rap debunks a lot of the myths about gangster rap and excuses for its lyrical content. I'd love to be able to write an essay making extensive reference to that book. If the professor was teaching a different viewpoint it wouldn't bother me.


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#23 2021-11-01 01:16:14

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

I’m not saying it was all crap what I learned and read in Uni classes. The thing is after four years I had to get a full time job and I could only do classes in the evening after the office. I reckon with what I learned 5 people could have finished but I didn’t.

With this Prof in American Studies, it was just her whole approach. I don’t know if you have read about Sokal and Sokal squared, Yuca, but you don’t have to be anti-intellectual in order to realize that these poststructuralists and po-mos talk a lot of crap. It’s impossible to write a thesis for them if you aren’t full of shit, too. You are supposed to use this language, use a bit Lacanian jargon here, some Foucault there and a bit of Derrida here. It’s all about being able to use the jargon and to repeat the same witticism. Not much to do with the real world.


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”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#24 2021-11-01 09:28:50

Yuca
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Re: The Mood Of The Moment ?

My own experience of higher education was a disaster (for various reasons) so I can relate. Now I'd love to be able to do another degree, although I would aim to include a lot of my own ideas rather than regurgitating whatever the tutors come out with. The only thing I would never be able to get on with is all the jargon: much as I love having an extensive vocabulary, I also love speaking in plain English.

With all the grade inflation in recent decades - the inevitable result of universities competing with each other as if they were fast food joints - I'm sure I would get a decent grade no matter what I did or didn't do.


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