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#1 2021-11-16 05:02:20

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New York New York...

Picking up on something elsewhere, I've just started watching little home movies of Manhattan on Youtube (thanks, our Gibson).  Great stuff: people, cars, buildings, the sidewalk, market stalls. 
Always wanted to go.  A missed opportunity in 2012.  Never will now.
But those movies...  'Midnight Cowboy'...  'Working Girl'...  A thousand others... 
But the New York/Manhattan of the 60s is, I guess, something few, if any of us on here, experienced. 
My Dad loved it, once he got his head around it.

Dad ordering coffee:

Waitress: 'Regular?'

Dad: 'No, just visiting a friend'.

 

#2 2021-11-16 05:44:33

woofboxer
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Re: New York New York...

Me ... being indecisive about where to sit on entering a diner in Murray Hill.

Sassy 70 year old waitress ... 'They're all chairs honey, just park your touche on one'


We're booked to go again in April.


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#3 2021-11-16 05:48:58

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LOL.  Not just my old Dad then.

 

#4 2021-11-16 08:32:58

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I love the Vox Pop Street Interviews.  The incredibly cute chick in the dark glasses.

 

#5 2021-11-16 08:45:24

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Also some great colour footage with sound.  'The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming' at the cinema (the great Alan Arkin).  A kid in a red polo shirt, shorts and loafers, darting away from the camera.  A great deal of neon.  A feast.

 

#6 2021-11-16 10:17:03

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I never tire walking around Manhattan. My Brother in law moved to Connecticut in 1999 and for the next 6 years (until he came back to the UK) we used to go 2 or 3 times a year.
Train from Greenwich or when he moved a couple of years later Darien all the way to Grand Central (most days) wandering around the Big Apple. Obviously did all the sights first year or two, but then as I said just enjoying walking or taking the subway around the city. Nowadays it's every other year but staying this time in lovely hotel on Park Avenue. Should've gone back last December for my 60th but COVID put a dent in that.

 

#7 2021-11-16 10:24:40

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Three times I planned a trip.  Never made it.  Something always got in the way.

 

#8 2021-11-16 10:44:36

Runninggeez
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There's so much to do, I could go back next year and discover something new.

 

#9 2021-11-16 11:22:18

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Last time I was there I got caught up in that bloody hurricane. That was fun. Our hotel in SoHo lost all power as did all of downtown for a few months, reflecting the poor condition of much of NYC's infrastructure. I lay on my hotel bed and watched the power station on the East River blow up. Had to shuffle up to a now massively overcrowded midtown and queue for food until midnight to eat. Rather stressful. The big plus was being served by David Wilder in J.Press, making a speech at the opening night for Kamakura Shirts on Madison Ave, and stumbling upon the Lexington Candy Shop in the Upper East Side - what a place! Now have contacts in Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn so looking forward to venturing into a less overtly touristy, more New Yorker aspect of NYC if I make it over there again.

 

#10 2021-11-16 13:57:58

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Every time I'm on the plane home from New York there is a list of things I've failed to accomplish. I have relatives there, so it's always a compromise between familial duty and time to myself. My last visit was 2019 and I managed to grab an afternoon to myself.
Brooks, Kamakura, Alden and Press being relatively close to one another meant I could get a lot done.
In Press they immediately clocked my madras shirt and asked if I was a John Simons customer. The only issue was their sale was on and they had little in my size.
Kamakura, now sadly gone, were really helpful and I finally managed to work out my size.
I regret not going to 346 one last time.

 

#11 2021-11-16 13:58:16

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2RS - sounds like a testing trip. The Lexington Candy Store is a real treat where it’s possible to imagine that you have stepped back into 1960 watching them making making those obscure old recipe soft drinks from scratch. I like the neon sign outside saying ‘Luncheonette’. Still a few of these old gems around, but like London they are vanishing fast. Have been to Brooklyn a couple of times but feel it needs more effort As I don’t feel as though we have really scratched the surface. I want to visit Sean Crowley’s shop in the DUMBO district.


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#12 2021-11-16 13:59:15

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DUMBO?  Go to Disneyworld.

 

#13 2021-11-16 15:20:52

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@TRS, what year were you there ? I was there in 2015 and met Yoshio Sadasue by chance, as he was in the Madison Ave store. Apparently the night before there was a bit of do. Was that the do you made a speech at ?

 

#14 2021-11-16 17:46:12

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October 2012 as Kamakura opened for the first time. Yoshio, who I thought was just great, very genuine and decent, radiating integrity, made a speech saying how great our The Ivy Look book was, especially the essay I'd written on Japanese Ivy. Graham and I then stood up and said Kamakura was better than Brooks, Press and Mercer combined, or something like that, and proceeded to guzzle Kamakura champagne with the typical relish of big-boned Anglo Saxon men... Twas a strange affair, but very memorable. I remember being in a cab hurtling along one of the Avenues downtown as the hurricane began to hit. Graham wore galoshes over his Alden wingtips which I found hilarious.

 

#15 2021-11-17 01:19:11

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Nothing to do with NYC as such.  My Dad, speaking on the 'phone to an electrician: 'Good afternoon, you recently rewired my son's wife'.  An innocent abroad.  Used to wander round Manhattan on his own, taking it all in. 
^ From 2RS: some lovely stuff as usual.

 

#16 2021-11-17 01:58:51

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@TRS, wonderful stuff.
Yoshio was immaculately turned out and was extremely pleasant, after a little spend up, he put a folded up tote bag (in with the shirts) with the Kamakura logo on it, made out of Dicros which was the material their packable raincoat is made out of. Still comes in quite handy when out shopping.

 

#17 2021-11-17 10:47:19

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Kamakura have been working with the same team for decades. When we met them in NYC Yoshio had with him about 60 people who he'd flown over from Japan and Europe, including me and Graham Marsh, at his expense. His button supplier and button-hole stitcher, his textile suppliers, his accountants, his wife (who flirted with Graham), his daughter, all his factory workers - the whole lot. And he bought us a fancy dinner in a fancy but traditional venue, and he is clearly respected and adored by all. It's old school capitalism - profit-making with morality. I recommend everything Kamakura do to you all. Shame Madison Avenue didn't work out for them.

 

#18 2021-11-17 12:55:17

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I’m guessing that Kamakura’s issue was one of sizing. They offered a range of different fits that were a bit outside of the norm.
It took me three attempts and a store visit to get it right.
Service in store was first class, the quality is superb and the value is hard to beat.
The Vintage Ivy shirts have been really collectible too.
They also occupied a great location that would of been quite expensive for a store predominant selling shirts

 

#19 2021-11-17 15:06:55

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They had another store down at Brookfield Place (downtown Manhattan), but they didn't do the Vintage Ivy range.

 

#20 2021-11-17 16:42:47

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I always thought they closed due to and during the pandemic. I went to the Madison store a lot and found that their MTM was excellent and the knit oxfords were really well done- but that eventually their button down Oxford just didn’t hold up as well. The two MTM shirts I bought are perfect. Not perfect Ivy- they’re way too trim and sharp-edged for that. But they’re fine shirtmaking. Flawless. Far better than my Mercer shirts.

 

#21 2021-12-31 13:56:00

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Re: New York New York...

My wife and I are New Yorkaphiles and will watch virtually any film that was shot on location there just for the fun of spotting places and areas we have visited.

So if you share that interest you will enjoy this website that shows locations as they appeared in classic movies v how they look now.

https://nycinfilm.com/


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#22 2021-12-31 14:19:17

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My wife and I are also New Yorkaphiles although we have only been there three times, on short visits. Something exciting always seems to happen to us when we are there. I always feel like I'm in a movie but in truth I feel that most of the time!
Thanks for the link.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#23 2021-12-31 15:29:09

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Been there many times, as my brother in law used to live in Connecticut. A few weeks ago I watched Woody's Manhattan Murder Mystery, loved the old NY especially as there wasn't a European car in sight except square looking Chevvy's, Buick's & Caddy's, also no-one on a bloody mobile phone.

 

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