Let's assume some of us are already tired of autumn and are looking forward to the days of wine and roses. A check shirt appeals: possibly half-sleeve. But we don't want to run the risk of looking like a Ben Sherman era skinhead (or whatever). What must we do? What must we, at all costs, steer clear of? Anything fitted, certainly, but are there other, possibly unseen, pitfalls?
Is it perhaps the case that, the bigger the check, the worse the look? I tend to know what I like when I see it. It's just that I don't have that experience often enough. And I do not, now, want to look too much like a refugee from 'Happy Days'.
I've got to say, I don't think half sleeves work on the older gent - it just looks rough, or , as my mum would say, "common". The ageing flab of the middle age lower arm can be exposed in a polo or T shirt I think, but half-sleeve button downs absolutely not. If you want to wear a shirt in summer then roll up the sleeves, an act which looks more natural and uncontrived, which is much more Ivy of course. And it can look sprezzy, and who can resist working on your inner sprezzatura..?
'Rough'. Yes, that's perfectly possible. A look to be avoided. All points taken.
I’ve got plenty of, in fact too many, short sleeve shirts that are mainly madras and a few Reyn Spooners. They all come virtually down to the crook of my elbow, covering my biceps, which suits me as they admittedly are no longer as tensile or sculpted as they used to be.
But middle aged male lower arm anxiety I cannot relate to. I will have to pay closer attention to other older mens forearms next summer to see if I’m just gifted with unusually attractive and well preserved ones. I may have forearms to die for, but I would happily trade them for a full head of hair or a big knob.
Come on Woofy, we all know you're hung like an Arab Stallion - remember how much Jo-Bo made the moves on you?
I say, that's really not the type of gentlemanly discourse I expect on an ivy clothing forum. Sorry but I'm sticking to Ivy Style from now on. Nice knowing you.
WOOFBOXER Said "...but I would happily trade them for a full head of hair or a big knob."
THIS has to be quote of the week!
Frankly, I intend taking our Gibson's advice. It only confirms a growing sense of unease that's developed after seeing men modelling half-sleeves for sale who are tattooed. A terrible look. I had the damn things done in 1976 and loathe them. I even tend to wear polo shirts beneath a v-neck sweater. All right, I know every other woman now looks like an East End docker but I'm still sensitive.
To return to the original point. Even setting aside the half-sleeve, acknowledging it as a dubious look for the bus-pass Ivyist (and it's creeping up on me, though I still have most of my own teeth), check shirts in themselves are ringing alarm bells - albeit small ones at present. A soft plaid seems desirable, glaring windowpanes not - does anyone else feel more or less that way? Strike out poly/cotton (correct, brother Yuca?), attempt to find something 'Made In The USA' that does not have '69 bovver boy associations, one might be on the right track. The wording 'Ivy League/Mod/skinhead/Oi/racist bonehead/Skrewdriver fan is beginning to get me down. Besides, I don't remember the last time I set eyes on a 'skinhead'. Not that I'm complaining.
I have a soft spot for a smaller Gingham check. Long sleeves only!
Oh yes, gingham is nice. James Coburn wore a corduroy suit and green gingham shirt in 'Charade', didn't he? I'll look it up.
'I would happily trade them for a full head of hair or a big knob'
Try Grindr.
'I don't remember the last time I set eyes on a 'skinhead''
Again, Grindr is your best bet.
I don't like huge checks. I don't like tiny checks much either. I like what Mercer calls the James Bond tattersall.
When tieless I prefer a check. Not too big I suppose.
I liked the look of a Black Watch tartan I saw on US Ebay. The seller did not respond with a shipping price.
Talking of matters sexual, my younger daughter worked with a girl her own age who used some kind of 'dating' site. A lot of shagging in dark car parks apparently. A bit cold on your bum in Derbyshire at this time of year.
I believe it's known as dogging. Rosco Gordon did a great R&B song called No More Doggin' in 1952, that proved influential in JA due to its proto ska rhythm.
She wasn't dogging, though. It was supposed to be a 'date'.
I've solved the check shirt problem. Just won't buy any.
In fact, a long-sleeved Gant Madras has just turned up, looking nicely faded and softened. Exceptions, ahem, can be made.
I'd forgotten about check shirts with my mind being diverted by matters sexual . Last week on the train to London a mixed group of six teenagers got in the carriage. One of the girls announced to everyone that the best sex she had ever had took place in the train toilet. She went on to say that she was surprised her partner managed to get it up. Looking at her I could see what she meant.
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Bit cramped, too, I should imagine. But teenagers have always been inventive, Robbie. I once had it away inside a concrete pipe. Any old port in a storm. You just had to make sure the female arse didn't get cold.