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#76 2012-02-13 09:37:56

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: the architects

something from Zach:

http://www.ivy-style.com/building-a-wardrobe-mid-century-architect-style.html

I've missed it before, and I don't think it was posted here....


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#77 2012-04-03 06:13:58

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#78 2012-04-03 06:18:18

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#79 2012-04-03 06:22:38

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#80 2012-04-03 06:26:42

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#81 2012-04-03 06:53:59

Oo Bop Sh'bam
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Re: the architects

Great pics arn!


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#82 2012-04-03 07:30:14

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Re: the architects

Excellent, i am easily distracted by nice architecture.

 

#83 2012-05-14 04:27:39

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#84 2012-09-24 08:59:25

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#85 2013-03-06 03:23:36

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#86 2013-12-28 03:32:41

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42R | 16.5/34 | 34/30 | US 10D/UK 9.5E
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#87 2013-12-28 07:38:21

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Re: the architects


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#88 2013-12-29 05:59:20

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#89 2019-04-04 09:56:31

woofboxer
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#90 2019-04-04 16:40:17

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Re: the architects


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#91 2019-04-05 02:46:24

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#92 2021-10-10 10:21:03

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There was much enjoyment to be had from this thread.  The forum was truly buzzing as Gibson and myself, in my first incarnation, went head to head.  But we had a couple of lovely walks round London together back in the summer of 2012 and many examples of architecture were pointed out.  Since then I've become more familiar with the likes of Pevsner and Summerson and have adjusted my views somewhat.  Pevsner, for example, may well have a point when he claims there was little excuse for Nottingham building its Council House in the way it did when Swedish models had become perfectly acceptable.  Much late Victorian building was, of course, lacklustre and the modernists were probably right to be impatient with it.

 

#93 2022-01-14 02:51:10

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Re: the architects

The closest England (Scottish and Irish architecture and design are rather different, especially the first) came to perfection was when Wren was building.  Other names to conjure with: Jones, Hawksmoor, Gerber, May, Pratt.  Some refer to a 'Queen Anne' style of building, but most of the better examples show some Dutch influence and came a good deal earlier than her reign. 
George Orwell grew impatient with local politicians in the 1930s who were building grandiose, semi-classical public buildings when their urban housing problems were acute.  Nottingham is an excellent example and still had some of the worse housing stock in England as late as the 1960s (possibly later). 
I took a look at a brick building built in a Scandinavian style yesterday.  Rather pleasing because essentially modest.
London pub architecture is often worth a second and third glance.

 

#94 2022-01-14 02:58:21

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What, you might ask yourselves, does any of this have to do with the selecting, buying, wearing and binning of 'Ivy League' clothing?  Well: sheer visual appreciation - else its opposite.  I saw some very ugly shoes on Ebay last night that the seller claims to be Florsheim.  Probably American, too.  Described - oddly - as 'brogues'.  And do you not sometimes find that the most expensive items on offer you wouldn't accept as a gift?

 

#95 2022-01-14 03:28:52

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Re: the architects

the Futuro house, designed by Finnish architect Matti Suuronen in 1968.

The Woolster used to make some good contributions to Talk Ivy. I wonder if he is still into Ivy clothes. I've also been interested in the Futuro house and the Guardian article he quoted is worth a read. Pity we can't post pictures.


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#96 2022-01-14 03:31:42

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/may/10/futuro-ideal-home-wasnt


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#97 2022-01-14 04:23:00

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Re: the architects

There is a place for a Futuro house. Or something similar to small Japanese apartment style. They're well thought out. As long as you're not hoarding bin bags full of button down shirts. They're easy to live in. The size alone should make them more affordable. And affordable to live in. As long as they're priced in line with their square footage, rather than novelty value or location i.e. overlooking The Thames.

There's an argument that if built in big enough numbers this type of housing would be a huge boost. We are a nation of house builders and owners. Small, quality starter homes (maybe price capped? Or somehow free of the fluctuations in property prices generally) readily available to those stepping on the ladder (maybe available ONLY to young, first time buyers instead of investors/downsizers) that would, on the whole, naturally be vacated by those moving on and up, leaving stock available to the next generation of first time buyers.

Unfortunately, the hard truth is that in the UK, at that level of housing, planning regulations don't leave much room for originality, imagination AND profit. In fact small (one/two bedroom) starter homes with all the required fees, warrantees, minimum standard interior space, parking, amenity, storage, insulation etc barely turn any profit at all. So nobody in the private sector builds them.

 

#98 2022-01-14 04:28:25

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I've lived in everything from a chilly bedsit (single-bar electric fire during that winter of 1981-82: bitter) and a council house where nappies turned green overnight to a Grade 11 listed cottage on the edge of the Derbyshire Dales - and now this ten room pile.  English domestic architecture is enough to make you weep.  Robbie may well have something to say on this subject. 
I had a walk round the area I grew up in yesterday morning.  Shabby isn't the word for it.  But these new estates springing up everywhere...  no life, no soul...  just Tesco Express...

 

#99 2022-01-14 08:45:19

woofboxer
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Re: the architects

2 bedroom-2 bathroom apartments are the big thing where we live as the council are under such pressure to meet homebuilding targets and most of the viable building land was used up many moons ago. So if you apply to build apartments on any brownfield site, or even knock a big old Victorian detached place and build on it, you are almost guaranteed to get permission. 

I like modernist houses but I’m not sure I would want to live in some of them, especially the ones put up in the mid-60s. Many had poor building materials, lacked insulation and have damp and cold issues that are difficult to rectify. Their achilles heel was revealed in the  years following the 1973 oil crisis when heating bills went through the roof (as they are about to do again) and the case of these places that was literally it - the heat was just going through the roof … and the walls and the floors.


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#100 2022-01-14 10:21:01

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Re: the architects

Recent English domestic buildings (last 50 years) makes me weep but I try not to think about it too much.
Volume builders don't really use architects and they just do enough to satisfy the building regs. I happen to think that in the UK we have some really talented architects, often working in small practices. In every town you can  really good designers.
I was a big fan of the Essex Design Guide from 1973 that set a standard but I don't think it was used to the extent it should have been. I did meet snotty architects that thought they were too good to follow such guides. Sometimes they can be their own worst enemies.


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