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#1 2022-02-13 12:41:19

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Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

In danger of becoming part of a 'uniform', a stylistic stereotype - in other words, dull beyond comprehension.

Once again, Die Work Wear!

 

#2 2022-02-13 13:07:40

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I think the chore jacket has a long way to go before it achieves Harrington status.

It’s only comparatively recently come into fashion. And seems to be fading in popularity already? In a wider sense than Ivy fans?

Whether it lasts the distance as a cult item or goes the same way as snow wash denim remains to be seen.

 

#3 2022-02-13 17:39:34

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I believe the 'chore jacket' will stay around as it's discreet, affordable, easily copied, wearable and, for most men, flattering. Unlike the 'arrington which only really works if you have a lovely head of hair and the bone structure and accompanying wardrobe of Mr.Stephen McQueen. Oh, and you need Ali MacGraw on your arm as well. Otherwise you'll end up looking like that geezer Velux.

 

#4 2022-02-14 03:23:05

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I don't know if they're as adaptable or flexible as a harrington.

I had one years ago (which means I've still got one somewhere), before they were 'chore' and still called a bleu de travail. For me they didn't work with a shirt. Especially a button down. With a striped Tee I felt I was missing a beret and a string of onions. Looked okay with a chunky roll or crew neck. But being practical, why wear heavy knitwear with a light cotton jacket?

 

#5 2022-02-14 04:06:10

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

When I was around 10 years old many kids my age and older wore Harringtons. They were black or red. Red was only for skins, which essentially meant people who dedicated their lives to looking for someone to fill in. I got a black Harrington, for a fiver, from the local market. A Madness patch was eventually added on the sleeve as a primitive form of accessorising.

I don't know what a chore jacket is.

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#6 2022-02-14 04:32:04

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I have no recollection of seeing any Harringtons in tan or navy back then, which is ironic seeing as those colours are by far superior to black or red. Black Harringtons were ridiculously popular as I recall (around 1981), and a few years later no one would be seen dead in one.


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#7 2022-02-14 04:49:23

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

Yeah we all had them. Red was skinhead until a photo turned up of Weller wearing one. Then they were mod. Most were black. Burgundy was supposed to be very cool. Stone was for the older kids. Probably our mums wouldn't buy us an impractacal colour. Nobody seemed to wear navy back then, which all these years later I now favour.

Badges and patches were the only way you could tell or show affiliations. People have no idea how popular they were at that time. Certainly you could make a living from having a shop or stall that just sold badges, patches and posters.

I had a market stall flight jacket with a Madness back patch and Two Tone badges down one sleeve. Not learning from this I later had a fishtail parka. Worried that people wouldn't take the hint, I put a huge back patch on it with Jimmy on his scooter in front of a map showing mod rally locations that as a twelve year old I'd clearly not been on.

 

#8 2022-02-14 05:13:19

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

Which possibly brings us back to the original point?

Like them or not, harrington jackets are pretty much ingrained on both sides of the pond, and around the world, to a lot of different people with many different reference points.

The chore, or bleu de travail, has been around longer but only recently had its moment in the sun. I'm not sure if they're something people will repurchase once they're bored of the one they've got. I was possibly unfair comparing them to snow wash denim, maybe more in line with a letterman jacket? Always been around but very few people have owned more than one, if at all.

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#9 2022-02-14 05:27:53

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I think it's the olive G9 that is a rare item.  Also plaid - what we knew as Prince Of Wales check.

 

#10 2022-02-14 06:03:41

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I had an olive G9 from the Ivy Shop, served by John Lally, Autumn 1968, 2nd item purchased from there, I did initially buy a black one, went outside and (I think), there was an olive one in the window, went back in and exchanged it, good decision for a 15 yr old,

 

#11 2022-02-14 06:08:15

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

Definitely, Stax.  I think both Baracuta and Gant did a version.

 

#12 2022-02-14 06:19:56

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I'm relieved that Yuca has no knowledge of the chore jacket.
He and I often bicker but I respect his position as an Ivy purist.

 

#13 2022-02-14 06:35:33

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

Maybe if I find out what one is I'll fall in love.

I can't be bothered to do a simple search though.


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#14 2022-02-14 06:37:02

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

"I think both Baracuta and Gant did a version."
Actually the ones sold in the Squire Shop - and presumably the Ivy Shop too - were very decent copies by a brand called "Skyjump", who in the 70s morphed into "Ulysses" I believe, and put out some pretty cheap and nasty clobber!

 

#15 2022-02-14 06:45:31

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

Olive and POW have always been seen as the rarer colours. People I know that wouldn't have known anything of JS, The Ivy Shop etc. (still think the mark of a classic harrington is red Stewart tartan lining) still pine after them. Which is strange as you can pick one of those jobs up from Amazon for £15/20.

 

#16 2022-02-14 06:47:01

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

'I had an olive G9 from the Ivy Shop, served by John Lally, Autumn 1968, 2nd item purchased from there, I did initially buy a black one, went outside and (I think), there was an olive one in the window, went back in and exchanged it, good decision for a 15 yr old,'

A black Harrington, even of decent quality, aligns you with all sorts of uninspiring mod/skin and wannabe mod/skin types. Even in 1968 that was the case, I suspect. Well, if black looked good then I wouldn't care too much about who else wears it - but for me it doesn't. Olive, however, is far classier. Not only is it a lot nicer looking but it's far more exclusive (i.e. less popular). I bet a lot of people wouldn't even recognise one as a Harrington.

I think tan/stone is the original or at least that's what the Harrington character wore on Peyton Place and what Jeff Dexter and/or Mickey Tenner wore with Levis on RSG whilst demonstrating the block. It's probably my favourite, although it only seems to work with jeans. Navy with chinos is a classic too.

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#17 2022-02-14 06:49:37

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

Hi UI, I would agree that what was on offer in the Squire was the same as the Ivy Shop, although I understand JS & JK didn't open the Squire shop until 1969 4-5 years after they opened in Richmond, TBH I can't remember what the make was of that G9 in '68 but I'd think Barracuda, it was a decent jacket, Gant has been mentioned and I bought a pre-exterior label Gant from Richmond in 1984/85 in dark beige/khaki, that was a really good jacket, the material was like a gaberdine, I gave it away only 5-6 years ago to a young guy in my office at the time, only 2 G9's I've ever owned, I have a JS navy G4 but wear it sparingly, TBH the quality isn't that good IMO,

 

#18 2022-02-14 06:57:56

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

Definitely my dark navy is the most versatile. Darker than any shade of jean so goes well with those and khakis.

I'd definitely pick up an olive if I chanced accross a decent one.

I regret passing on a couple of MIE Harris Baracutas in TKMaxx a decade or so ago. Can't remember if they were G9 or G4. No idea why I did that as I remember them being around £40

 

#19 2022-02-14 07:21:54

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I regret the description 'chore': something all too often done grudgingly.

 

#20 2022-02-14 07:53:55

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I bought a Harrington from JS when he was in Russell St about 20 years ago, it's made by Field & Stream and it's a pretty good copy of the Baracuta G9, even down to the lining.
A good friend of mine who I played football with and who's about 6 or 7 years older than me, was an old Squire Shop/Ivy Shop customer, he had two really nice Harrington's made by an Italian company called Ivy Oxford, one in Navy, the other Burgundy.

 

#21 2022-02-14 08:05:09

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

'Field And Stream'.  Interesting.  Their shirts (there are a couple on Ebay) look like the kind of things I might buy if labelled 'Made In The USA'.  These are - one Cambodia, the other China.  Yet they want to give the impression (I assume) that they're selling traditional English countrywear.
Does anyone remember the 'Bramble' 'Harrington'? 
If only John Simons was tossed a pound by every maker/seller who has labelled a zip-up jacket a 'Harrington'...

 

#22 2022-02-14 08:26:49

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

The Ivy shop and the Squire shop were selling Baracuta Harringtons in 69/70. A bloke I knew had a rare chocolate brown one from the Ivy shop and I had a bottle green one from the Squire shop. The olive one that Stax had was one of the coolest but a mate of mine had a lime green one that was considered tasty at the time. In my gang we all got different colours but no one I knew got a black one.
I bought a off white one from JS about 35 years ago which I still have


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#23 2022-02-14 08:34:28

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

I love my olive green chore jacket because it fits well and is well made. I have been wearing it during my daytime jaunts instead of a Harrington. With a wool scarf , flat cap, jeans or 5 pocket cords, desert boots.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#24 2022-02-14 09:26:17

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

'Field And Stream'.  Interesting.  Their shirts (there are a couple on Ebay) look like the kind of things I might buy if labelled 'Made In The USA'.  These are - one Cambodia, the other China.

I think this Field & Stream G9 is made in China, but it's pretty good.

 

#25 2022-02-14 09:30:00

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Re: Is The 'Chore Jacket' The New ''arrington'?

Robbie - I remember seeing a bunch of lads down at the coast somewhere in 69/70, and they were all wearing different coloured Harringtons - lime green, yellow, burgundy, white.....it looked very impressive, and I wonder if it was your gang?!?

 
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