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#51 2022-03-07 04:37:28

Spendthrift
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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

All was well with the world until someone decided it would be a good idea to ask actors and pop stars what they think

 

#52 2022-03-07 05:03:26

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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

They seem unable to help themselves, don't they?  Perhaps it all began with Chaplin and the balls he talked about the Soviet Union.

 

#53 2022-03-07 05:09:02

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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

TIF - The set dressing and clothing looked fairly authentic (given that this is Sunday night ITV).

@AUS, what was your opinion on the Button Down he was wearing ?

 

#54 2022-03-07 05:15:27

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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

Those 60s English films are, on the whole, pretty dire.  'Alfie' (not mentioned?) is probably the best of a bad bunch but that's only because it has some superb actresses in it: Vivien Merchant being one of them.  But all that 'let it all hang out', self-indulgent, Swinging London tripe - ecch.  Hollywood, of course, was turning out thousands of reels of crap by the 60s too, it goes without saying. 
Low culture was perhaps best: the Italians with their shameless rip-offs of everything - but often done better: like their westerns.  'A Fistful Of Dollars' with that great music and cheesy graphics.  Us with Bond (still okay until OHMSS), Hammer (going off the boil) but really not much else. 
The 50s were often dire: still trying to convince ourselves that we won the war without the aid of anyone else.

 

#55 2022-03-07 06:21:11

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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

The English films at that time seemed to swing wildly between 'isn't real life miserable', to 'Don't worry about it. Let's have a rave up'

America did a great job of tackling what were hugely controversial subjects: To Kill a Mockingbird, Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. Films that still stand up today, without any need for nostalgia to prop them up.

I've never really been a fan of spaghetti westerns or Hammer. Maybe they were already too dated and too cheap looking when I came round to them? I always liked the way the American's portrayed the Great Plains.

Here's a thing. I was never a fan of Bond. Neither books or film. Like football it just passed me by.

Runninggeez: I kept checking his collar. At times it looked like an okay roll. Bit short maybe. Certainly something I'd wear. I thought his jacket was great.

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#56 2022-03-07 07:23:44

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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

Perhaps a question of when one is born.  I saw my first Bond in around 1964 - fell asleep during 'From Russia With Love'.  My father had the Pan paperbacks.  I began picking those up long before taking my Eleven Plus. 
Hammer - at eleven, I hung my nose over the FOH stills for 'Scars Of Dracula' at the local ABC (long gone, but where 'Quadrophenia' was shown some years later).  The 'novelization' was at a pocket money price.  I waited years to see the movie - which turned out to be terrible. 
I re-read all the Bond novels and watched some of the films with Roger Moore during the early phase of 'lockdown'.  I also read a biography of Fleming, plus his travel books.  Realised how bored I'd become of it all.

 

#57 2022-03-07 08:44:43

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I kept checking his collar. At times it looked like an okay roll. Bit short maybe. Certainly something I'd wear. I thought his jacket was great.

It wasn't so much the collar roll, I thought he would've worn a straight collar, no tie clip. Thought he looked a little bit flash. But aside from that I thought it was ok, might be a slow burner.

 

#58 2022-03-07 09:13:38

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Yeah definitely. Probably a thing with the wardrobe department. If you want him to look like ‘The Sixties’, you put him in a button down and tie clip.
They do the same thing with girls. Make them all look like go go dancers.

 

#59 2022-03-07 11:05:08

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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

He was in a BD to show he was fashionable for he time and a different generation to his officer superior. Think too of the 60s shots of Caine in a roll collar white and banker stripe BDs of the time.

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#60 2022-03-07 11:50:24

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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

Those David Bailey shots are great.

I suppose there was an element of the new version that had Jo Cole cast as Caine and Palmer.

 

#61 2022-03-07 11:54:48

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Its evidently not meant to be a remake of the original film which itself did not stick to the novel. More of a slow burn with the story of how Palmer came to be working for the security services being covered in order to set the scene. I’ll give it a couple more episodes, its all available on ITV Hub now.

The best characters in the original film were the two civil servants who controlled Palmer, both ruthless ex officer types marching around St James Park in their bowlers and covert coats when they needed to discuss something dodgy.


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#62 2022-03-07 12:12:19

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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

My absolute favourite current TV is The Very Secret Service on Netflix, its about a naive young chap who joins the French Secret Service in the early 60s as France is divesting itself of the remants of its empire. Subtitled, its a gentle comedy and not meant to be taken seriously. The clothes, sets and cars are excellent and the depiction of Paris in that era is (I imagine) spot on. Its all very French and is worth watching for the very nice ladies alone. Check it out.


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#63 2022-03-07 12:25:40

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Re: The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

Woof- I'm always looking for Netflix recommendations so I will check out The Very Secret Service. I need a break from watching Peaky Blinders


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#64 2022-03-07 13:53:33

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^ This sounds good. I regret my decision to not have Netflix.

Guess I’ll just wait for it to come out on video.

 

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