I was thinking of selling some of my body parts to buy some Aldens.
I appreciate I won't get much for my liver. Probably too pickled but the questions remain....
How good are these shoes?
Do they deserve their legendary status ( More across the pond and by Trads on Ask Andy)?
Are they worth £700?
They are amazing shoes. And yes, being the owner of about 6 pairs, I feel qualified to say that they do deserve their status. They only get better with age, so the relatively high price tag will turn out to be an investment.
Last edited by Uncle Ian (2022-03-11 15:57:39)
I’ve got them in black calf and burgundy cordovan, both lucky deadstock buys. I’m on the lookout for a suede pair. As the Uncle says, great shoes. But Alden sizing is a bit strange; different lasts are different sizes and there’s even slight variation between the two pairs I own of the same style. The black pair are very comfortable while the cordo pair are more close fitting and only really good for sockless deployments, cordovan doesn’t stretch very much with wear either. So I would say they must be tried on before buying, or if you’re doing it online make sure you can return them if they don’t work out. I had mine Topy’d and a metal tip cut in on the toe which is the point where I wear the soles down. I’m sure they’ll outlast me.
The variations in size and last have always been a problem for me.
There's a store in Connecticut, ShoeMart, that carries most if not all of the Alden line. It's a substantial haul for me, so I've never made the trip. (Never mind the price of new Aldens.)
Some day...
I've got a bazillion pairs of loafers I don't wear already.
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I can’t doubt the quality of the shoe. Never seen them in the flesh, but clearly those that know, know.
One very obvious result of my recent wardrobe sort out was that I’m ok for shoes. By sheer volume alone I’ll never need to buy more. I don’t generally have any requirement or occasion to wear smart, so it wouldn’t be any kind of investment for me to spend that much on a pair.
Without being morbid, I’m not sure the ‘last a lifetime’ argument stands up when we’re talking about 50/60 year old men?
That said, half of me wants to slap Alvey on the back and congratulate him on his fine taste, and being able to afford it. The other half wants to slap him round the face and repeat ‘It’s £700 man. For shoes!’
^ That's about where I am. Even after a fairly thorough purge I have a shitload of shoes.
Spendthrift
I know it's a ridiculous amount of money for shoes and it's not like there aren't a million other things I could spend the money on - curtains for the landing, a better bedside light for my wife, a rug. You get the picture I'm sure.
I deserve the slap - and not on the back
This would be a totally selfish purchase. I would immediately regret the amount of cash spent. I would no doubt lie in bed at night thinking what a clothes obsessed idiot I am - But....
My name is AlveySinger and I'm addicted to Ivy...
Woof,
I have exactly the same issue with shoes. The toe of the sole goes first.
My local Crockett and Jones adds in the flush metal plate from French brand LuLu.
They also got some Rancourt Loafers over soled so that the Blake stitching was covered with a full leather sole
Hmmm. Can I get on board with the theory that the Lady of the house goes without soft furnishings while the Gentleman parades around in £700 shoes?
Yes. I think I can.
Go for it Alvey! Let me know where you stash the receipt. Wherever you hide that one will be a great place I’m sure.
I know it is sacrilegious to say so but I´ll say it anyway. I hate loafers. To me they are old mans shoes. There was this renowned guy in swedish finance who got so fat that he couldn't tie his own shoes, so he only wore loafers. That is what I think of every time I see loafers. And I have also been morbidly obese andI know how it feels like to have a brush with death every time you have to tie the shoe laces...
Man, eating and drinking yourself to death is hard work I'll tell you. I failed. Like with everything else I try. Maybe that's where I failed. Never try, as what "Chinaski" used to say. My recipe for death was a bottle of champagne and half a bottle of bourbon every day. Until one morning when I was standing up pissing in the toilet and felt a pang in my chest and then almost fainted.
Therefore I will never wear loafers.
Actually, I take your point.
There’s an element of the loafer that is ‘the lazy man’s shoe’. Often worn with poorly fitting, cheap polyester trousers and a worn out cardigan. What I would think of as a kind of Man at C&A look.
Worn with (turned up) selvedge jeans or cuffed chinos, a button down, polo or decent knitwear, I think they hit that sweet spot between casual and pin sharp.
LHS cordovan loafers have a bit of a geriatric character. They're sturdy, well built and re-soleable but staid. Although this may get me banned I almost always gravitate toward horse-bits over Aldens. That said my Brooks/Alden cordo cap toes are nearly perfect and see much more wear. A proper lace-up seems more suitable to the material. A personal proclivity to be sure.
A suede pair might strike a nice balance.
Really interesting points of view.
I started working in the mid Eighties in advertising and loafers had replaced conventional business shoes like Oxfords. All sorts were popular - Uk style tassel, kiltie, US made penny loafers, side buckle.
I have always had an affinity with them. In summer months they're the only shoes I wear - except some drivers from Florsheim and Cole Haan/Surgical appliance
At 55 I suppose I qualify as being old so I guess I also qualify for loafers.
A rare poking of the head above the parapet for me, - outstanding timing on the thread Alvey, I too am contemplating such a purchase.
Part of my issue is that no where on this rock actually sells Aldens, so they'll have to be imported. I'm contemplating a pair of C&J's instead because at least I could theoretically try those on, although it would require a trip to Belfast, which is frankly an unappealing place to visi - and realistically I'm not sure which is the better shoe?
On the question of cost, I look at it this way, firstly there is the thrill of splashing out a not insignificant amount of money. Then comes buyers remorse, "Oh god, what have I done" - and finally acceptance and enjoyment.
If you really want to put it into a different perspective, then over a ten year period, your swanky new shoes will cost you a mere 70 quid a year, or £1.34 a week, a mere snip at 19 pence a day. I'd find that on the floor of the local Tesco car-park without too much issue.
^ My entire working day tomorrow is going to be based around creating a template based on Tim’s post.
I must admit, going to Belfast solely to buy a pair of shoes is not something I've ever done.
Call me a lightweight if you wish.
Tim-
'On the question of cost, I look at it this way, firstly there is the thrill of splashing out a not insignificant amount of money. Then comes buyers remorse, "Oh god, what have I done" - and finally acceptance and enjoyment.'
This describes me on a fairly regular basis. I'll have to start visiting the local Tesco car park by the sounds of it.
Tim,
Great view point on cost per week.
I'm big fan of C&J.Superb shoes. No need for buyers remorse. I regularly wear suede Boston loafers, Cavendish loafers and Chiltern chucks.
I've just had them make me some long wings in one of their discontinued styles.
OK not a US brand or strictly Ivy but still great.
@RobbieB - I can't claim that all Tesco car-parks are alike but I'd have thought twenty pence would be easily found if you happened to be looking. Buyers remorse is only ever temporary, unless you truly have cocked up!
@Alvey - Good to know on the C&J's front. The old man swore by them & before them Wildsmith of old. I'll be in London in April, so will try and have a look at both if I can.
@Yuca - Going to Belfast is unappealing full stop, it just happens to be home to the only half-way reasonable shoe-shop and menswear-shop on this damp little island.
Tim,
Your old man then was a connoisseur of great footwear.
Interesting he liked Wildsmith loafers. Superb style. They used various manufacturers across the years. Always highest quality.