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#26 2014-06-14 03:50:33

Bop
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

This is the type of stuff that keeps me awake at night

 

#27 2014-06-14 03:54:41

woofboxer
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

The shorter length of the Keydge lends itself to casual wear. To my eye it doesn't look right mixed with dressy items, you can just about get away with wearing one with chinos but 5 pockets suit it better. It will take a knitted tie but not a silk one IMO. Many boom years casual summer jackets were cut shorter, you often see this with madras ones.

Does it look like a traditional American cut jacket? No it doesn't, but should that bother you? It depends if you want time capsule ivy i.e. looking like you're at Harvard in 1962 or a more modern iteration of the look. Styles move on and other items come into the mix. Worth mentioning also that J Press have been stocking the cotton Keydge jackets for some years as a summer item, so trad status can't be far off.


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#28 2014-06-14 03:56:45

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Polo 'Hampton' or 'Langley' are unlined cotton in good colours and I like the cut (size up one for more casual look) and can be found for reasonable prices like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-POLO-by-RA … 25904a1fd5
Darted but that's not something that bothers me too much. Keydge prices are just nuts for what they are.

 

#29 2014-06-14 03:59:05

4F Hepcat
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

woofboxer wrote:

The shorter length of the Keydge lends itself to casual wear. To my eye it doesn't look right mixed with dressy items, you can just about get away with wearing one with chinos but 5 pockets suit it better. It will take a knitted tie but not a silk one IMO. Many boom years casual summer jackets were cut shorter, you often see this with madras ones.

Does it look like a traditional American cut jacket? No it doesn't, but should that bother you? It depends if you want time capsule ivy i.e. looking like you're at Harvard in 1962 or a more modern iteration of the look. Styles move on and other items come into the mix. Worth mentioning also that J Press have been stocking the cotton Keydge jackets for some years as a summer item, so trad status can't be far off.

They are casual and do look good with a knitted tie.


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#30 2014-06-14 04:00:05

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Sidewinder wrote:

Keydge prices are just nuts for what they are.

Aye, quite expensive for a jersey.


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#31 2014-06-14 04:02:15

Bop
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

And not alpha sized either..

If you like it wear it.. im not bowled over by mine but I still wear it. I prefer my RL one.

But this really is for summer needs I think most people could find a nice vintage sack for the rest of the year. Summer jackets seem to be hard to find

 

#32 2014-06-14 04:13:09

fxh
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Makes me wonder how hard line purist are youse blokes? Whatever a purist is. I have around 5 straight up no darts ivy vintage jackets, millions of ocbd, high rise chinos, knit ties  etc. But I also have loads of italian suits, jacket's, spread collars etc. I wear what my mood or situation determines.


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#33 2014-06-14 05:21:45

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Can't stand spread collars, there's nothing worse than the open spread collar being worn without a tie, it looks just so wrong.


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#34 2014-06-14 05:38:11

IvyLeagueOfGentlemen
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

4F Hepcat wrote:

Can't stand spread collars, there's nothing worse than the open spread collar being worn without a tie, it looks just so wrong.

Also with a tie in a Windsor knot.

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#35 2014-06-14 06:02:48

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

The post-match fitball player and commentator look deserves its own thread on how style cannot exist in a vacuum.


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#36 2014-06-14 06:06:28

4F Hepcat
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Bop wrote:

I prefer my RL one.

But this really is for summer needs I think most people could find a nice vintage sack for the rest of the year. Summer jackets seem to be hard to find

RL cotton and linen jackets are more expensive alternatives, the biggest problem is the plethora of buttons on the cuffs. The two button Keydge gets that essential detail right.


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#37 2014-06-14 06:18:51

Thee Captain
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

I've never found a RL that fits me and I'm not one for tailoring generally...
Thee Keydge just fits me great...my style is mostly relaxed and so it suits my needs...
Yeah, I've a fair few wash n wears and lightweight jobbies but at the end of the day...these days I just ain't wearing them anymore.....

I also love wearing new stuff still..I'm very happy thank you very much and ta for asking in Keydge/Vetra etc.

Still - splendid debate fellas.. it comes down to personal choice as always

Thee Captain
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#38 2014-06-14 07:46:55

Bop
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

4F Hepcat wrote:

Bop wrote:

I prefer my RL one.

But this really is for summer needs I think most people could find a nice vintage sack for the rest of the year. Summer jackets seem to be hard to find

RL cotton and linen jackets are more expensive alternatives, the biggest problem is the plethora of buttons on the cuffs. The two button Keydge gets that essential detail right.

I agree but, I'm about to say something that may shock and disgust you. I don't like the two button feature. Kissing buttons I think have always looked better. It's not a clincher I'll take both..but two is such an obvious design. But like I said an essential feature for the brooks. Cant say my jpress has the two button though.  Or maybe it does? Woof will know from his jacket

 

#39 2014-06-14 07:48:30

Bop
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Thee Captain wrote:

I've never found a RL that fits me and I'm not one for tailoring generally...
Thee Keydge just fits me great...my style is mostly relaxed and so it suits my needs...
Yeah, I've a fair few wash n wears and lightweight jobbies but at the end of the day...these days I just ain't wearing them anymore.....

I also love wearing new stuff still..I'm very happy thank you very much and ta for asking in Keydge/Vetra etc.

Still - splendid debate fellas.. it comes down to personal choice as always

Thee Captain
15th Ponce Battalion

P.S. Bop - I'll give you some night night mantras when I sees ya...

You can try my one on Cappo what chest are you? Ive got two one a bit undersized for me.

 

#40 2014-06-14 08:13:27

fxh
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

I'd almost never wear an open necked shirt that wasn't BD. And I never wear an extreme spread.


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#41 2014-06-14 08:37:26

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

We knew you were a man of wealth and taste.....


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#42 2014-06-14 09:20:57

fxh
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Please allow me to introduce myself.........


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#43 2014-06-14 09:28:16

Bop
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Please allow myself to introduce.....er...myself. Im Richie Cunningham and this is my wife Oprah.

 

#44 2014-06-14 11:02:36

Thee Captain
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Bop wrote:

Thee Captain wrote:

I've never found a RL that fits me and I'm not one for tailoring generally...
Thee Keydge just fits me great...my style is mostly relaxed and so it suits my needs...
Yeah, I've a fair few wash n wears and lightweight jobbies but at the end of the day...these days I just ain't wearing them anymore.....

I also love wearing new stuff still..I'm very happy thank you very much and ta for asking in Keydge/Vetra etc.

Still - splendid debate fellas.. it comes down to personal choice as always

Thee Captain
15th Ponce Battalion

P.S. Bop - I'll give you some night night mantras when I sees ya...

You can try my one on Cappo what chest are you? Ive got two one a bit undersized for me.

I rock a 54 in the Keydge Bop..


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#45 2014-06-15 16:28:04

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Bop wrote:

Personally if you don't want to pay the money...and im not sure they're worth it re. The keydge. Id get a RL cotton 3 button like this.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi … 1106386412

These jackets are great, the proportions are perfect and because of the construction they can be altered.

If someone knocked these out without a dart youd have a winner. Also the dart doesnt make it waisted it sits better than the keydge.

If you really wanted no dart though...either go keydge or scour the vintage on ebay and etsy for a linen, seer sucker or madras sack.

TKMaxx are selling RL undated jackets in tan with all the correct details (except for 4 buttons on the sleeve) for 99 quid. Made in China and a RRP of nearly 300quid. I tried one on and if I hadn't just bought a Keydge I would have bought it. Instead I got a Made in USA BB BD for 25 and a RL made in India popover bleeding Madras for 40 (no logo)


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#46 2014-06-15 20:20:13

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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Bop wrote:

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who .. does ... Number ... Two ... work ... for?


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#47 2014-06-16 01:34:51

Tommy
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

RobbieB wrote:

Bop wrote:

Personally if you don't want to pay the money...and im not sure they're worth it re. The keydge. Id get a RL cotton 3 button like this.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi … 1106386412

These jackets are great, the proportions are perfect and because of the construction they can be altered.

If someone knocked these out without a dart youd have a winner. Also the dart doesnt make it waisted it sits better than the keydge.

If you really wanted no dart though...either go keydge or scour the vintage on ebay and etsy for a linen, seer sucker or madras sack.

TKMaxx are selling RL undated jackets in tan with all the correct details (except for 4 buttons on the sleeve) for 99 quid. Made in China and a RRP of nearly 300quid. I tried one on and if I hadn't just bought a Keydge I would have bought it. Instead I got a Made in USA BB BD for 25 and a RL made in India popover bleeding Madras for 40 (no logo)

I'll have a look in my local one today, they usually get a lot of RL in- where'd you find them?

 

#48 2014-06-16 02:37:03

Moose Maclennan
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

A Keydge can't really be compared to regular summer-weight sack jackets without it all leading to tears.

Anyone for whom a sports jacket means 'dressing up' is unlikely to be happy with it - get a proper blazer or suit instead. It's very casual indeed. As others have said, it sits better with jeans or less structured chinos and knit ties go well with them. They can even be worn straight over a t-shirt, something one would never do with 'normal' blazers.

Inveterate (or invertebrate?) jacket wearers may well love them though, hard use without hesitation is the name of the game. The looks - the real-life ones, not photos - are just a bonus.

 

#49 2014-06-16 03:39:29

Bop
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

Im talking about other comparable summer jackets not blazers. The cotton RLs work in the same way as a keydge whether darted or not they're just better jackets and for me personally look better. I can wear them 5ps and a madras or knitted tie. Im not sure I'd wear any jacket over a tshirt unless they asked me to have a bit part in Miami Vice.

 

#50 2014-06-16 04:16:20

Moose Maclennan
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Re: Keydge vs Alternatives

I'm not familiar with the RL jackets sadly - really fully unlined? Otherwise the observation stands; of course lightweight summer jackets are fine garments, and many prefer them. The Ivy Gods alone know I have enough, and I wear them with jeans more often than not.
But the comparison with the Keydge is off. Unlined field jackets are maybe the nearest thing.


I'm wearing a linen Keydge over a T-shirt as I write you cheeky bugger.

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