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#51 2015-09-11 09:26:01

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Re: 'Weird Sounds From The Way Out' Thread

Ad Hom - That Tristan Perich piece is fantastic

ZJ - Love that Liaisons track and the Add N to Z one too, wasn't familiar with it at all (I'm still getting over the video for Metal Fingers in Body)

Acton - regarding the BiS Kaidan - you're clearly a very sick man.

This thread grows more awesome by the minute...

 

#52 2015-09-11 09:27:07

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ZarJazz wrote:

Got to stop... I have work to do dammit!

My sentiments exactly

 

#53 2015-09-11 09:29:02

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Feck it, one more

Martin Rev - Temptation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLEHP9Imf7I

 

#54 2015-09-11 09:31:22

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This has been a very enjoyable thread - well-deserved thanks to Acton for opening it and to all you gentleman with such excellent taste who have contributed.


We dont need any of the clothes we buy except as a means to be the star in the film of our life populated by constructs  - FNB

 

#55 2015-09-11 09:39:18

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McGeorge Bundyburger wrote:

The more I listen to the stuff of this thread, the more epic it becomes. (And the more distracted from pressing deadlines I get...)

Inspired by Acton's leftfield piano jazz:

DJ Lebowitz - Holiday in Cambodia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qx6RX7ek70

Superb! I had never known that this existed. I am singing 'Pol - Pot' softly to myself.


We dont need any of the clothes we buy except as a means to be the star in the film of our life populated by constructs  - FNB

 

#56 2015-09-11 09:58:00

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^ hahaha


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#57 2015-09-11 10:07:20

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It's Friday, so let's get this thread dancing....

The Aloof - On A Mission
https://youtu.be/DVfY1dS_i3s

The Residents - Kaw-Liga (Prairie Mix)
https://youtu.be/2_PXOAco-x4

and 'cos you've all been so good today, double µ-Ziq
Lunatic Harness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIBEwmyIwLA

Brace Yourself Jason -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN_9nB37O_U


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#58 2015-09-12 01:00:20

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From where I am, I can't post Google links until back as you know.

But one area of my life that involved incredibly weird music was setting up and running psychedelic/wyrd folk music site The Unbroken Circle which led to a CDr series 'Lammas Night Laments'.  For The Unbroken Circle I was reviewing a lot of music with and without labels and released I could help with a new distribution method.   It was an interesting challenge to take the most conservative music form and apply it to the most modern, non-physical distribution medium.   So I created a fast growing legal music download service/un-music label/artist-collaborative/social forum site called 'Woven Wheat Whispers'.   This then led to a full double CD release and accompanying double-CD length additional download called 'John Barleycorn Reborn' that curated all the unknown new artists of relevance making the music.  Somehow it won folk album of the year from HMV back when such things still mattered.

This double CD went from new traditional folk with darker themes through to genuinely strange artists, field recordings, folk dance recordings in a homage to the work of such as Cecil Sharp and Alan Lomax.  The 'Lammas Night Laments' collected 15 CDrs over the years of out of print old strange folk and related music from the 50s-70s and ended once they started being reissued properly.  Many of the old artists were involved and no money was ever charged.  Latter on Bob Stanley did the same thing fully legally with Cherrystones and other CD series that were issued at the 'height' of revived interest.   I believe they can easily be found with a bit of digging online but I don't have them anymore.

There were a lot of further plans to do after the CD set but very quickly the new global download players (Apple, Amazon) were eating in too much and the effort taking over my life so I stopped it all.  As a one-person initiative doing it for the love rather than money, managing the MCPS-PRS compliance was a nightmare as they weren't set up for small download services at the time.

The double CD John Barleycorn Reborn had a full concept around it, a calendar of seasonal folk customs online linked to the songs, its own bespoke artwork and was the accumulation of years work that involved putting on side stages of this music at festivals such as Moseley.   I'll post an interview below in which I explained more (strange reading yourself back years later).  These sites and music had me get to know and work with secretive pagans, earth magicians, magical morris dancers, Mummers and cunning folk and led to me being targeted by scary extreme right wingers and ended up with the police involved in threats and attempts to kill someone and me for knowing them.   It still makes me shudder and got very dark for a while.   (As David Tibet / Michael of Current 93 said to me 'Behind the Horns..... the horns'.  Check out his music/life/interests and book 'England's Hidden Reverse' which I deliberately didn't read to avoid it influencing me). 

It felt slightly like a musical journey of The Wicker Man though with a happier ending.  The music in that film was the original inspiration for it all back in the late 80s when a few of us managed to find the fullest version still known ahead of the studios acknowledging its existence and later forums such as Mudcat in the earliest days of the internet.   The full story of all this journey remains untold, I just stopped and disappeared as it got genuinely dangerous with insane followers, police support, BNP and even more right wing attempts to co-opt my 'folk purism', US radical traditionalists, dark post-industrial musicians and others all trying to adopt/destroy what I was doing as suited them.  I seemingly became a very minor conspiracy myth of my own when I shut it all down, deleted the files and moved away from it all.   Artists by then had moved beyond wanting someone to support/curate them and give them a high share of the money and just wanted to get their music on iTunes.  Even if nobody reviewed it, nobody found it, they were paid less being on iTunes seemed to be its own reward.  It was clear that the era for independent music download services was past and soon many other bigger ones went the same way and closed.  Ironically I won an award or 'best ecommerce exit' even though the timing had been forced on me and I lost a fair bit of money doing so.   The relief was immense though.

I spent years getting to the point of the CD release and bringing it all together.   There are artists on there that are still completely obscure, some who would never reveal who they really were.   I had next planned a USA related release with my friends such as In Gowan Ring, P.G. Six, Tower Recordings and others, long before the Devendra Barnhart, Meg Baird, Joanna Newsom, Espers and others emerged who I also knew and released some of (seriously listen to In Gown Ring's 'Glinting Spade' and anything by them and B'eirth you can find)

Anyway, the full set is still available legally on CD (there is a follow up set that was a cash in and nothing to do with me):

http://www.amazon.com/John-Barleycorn-R … B000UYT9NK

http://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/v … 084CD.html    (review)

http://psychedelicfolk.homestead.com/Jo … eborn.html   (review)

http://www.terrascope.co.uk/Features/Jo … eature.htm   (full feature & interview)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/John-Barleycorn … orn+reborn

I see it is available illegally too to download though I wouldn't encourage that of course

I also worked with other sites on collaborative artists showcases such as Fatea and many more, these might still be online.

In a full circle one of the artists I released was the fiddler from The Wicker Man film and a range of the original '60s musicians reinvigorated with the new interest.

It all feels like someone else now, a half remembered dream where you say - did that really happen?    All that time I was married with young children, working, going out and making a life.   How do we fit it all in when young?

Years later Stuart Maconie and others wrote books describing the unconventional folk music of 60s and more recently, I never took a look but suspect all of this wasn't mentioned and had already faded into willing obscurity.

I hope you enjoy the story and possibly the music.   This is the first time I've even mentioned all this for a fair number of years.


[I've edited this post a few times for clarity and legibility]

Last edited by An Unseen Scene (2015-09-12 02:11:37)

 

#59 2015-09-12 02:23:38

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^ tremendous stuff, looking forward to some of your selections when you're back from China.
I've that John Barleycorn Reborn cd kicking around somewhere it's really good.

Like you I've had my run-ins with the post industrial/wyrd folk right wing brigade, a scary bunch indeed and best avoided.
I worked as a studio engineer for Coil and some of their spin-off projects, when Sleazy and Jhon were based in Chiswick, and as a result got lots of enquiries to work on other similar stuff by bald/shaved head men with some very peculiar interests.


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#60 2015-09-12 02:29:47

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Blimey, then you know exactly what I mean.  I was aware as I wrote the post that it sounded fantastical, delusional stuff without first hand experience.
What a small world too.

I just realised what you said about Coil too - Coil got an almost 3D hallucinatory sound, often with minimal instrumentation.  Even if I didn't always feel comfortable with the music (which was the point in part) the sound was incredible.    Your work on their music and side artists will have contributed to that.

A few artists have achieved this level of sound immersion - a few come to mind: The Residents, Steve Roach, some Steve Hillage (Rainbow Dome Garden especially), Robert Fripp's soundscapes, Arvo Part, Pauline Oliveros, Gavin Bryars' Titantic album, Constance Demby, Meg Bowles, John Oswald on Grayfolded, Michael Stearns, some ECM like the Peter Eskine 'Star' album, Kevin Braheny, Gil Evans productions for Mles Davis, the Congas amazing reggae album, Sun Ra, the cosmic musique concrete of Parmegianni, Morton Subotnik, the beautiful music for the Tarkosky films by Artemyev, Popul Vuh, some Holger Czukay, Jon Hassel, Laraaji, early Negativaland, Tah Mahal Travellers from Japan, Michel Redolfi especially with his music recorded underwater, Taj Mahal Travellers from Japan, David Tudor 'Rainforest', Intersystems 'Free Psychedelic Poster Inside', Rod Modell & Michael Mantra 'Sonic Continuum', Pete Namlook, Alio Die.   I guess we are approaching the David Toop 'Ocean of Sound' type thinking.    Music can do very strange things to your head.

Really good studio engineering makes a massive contribution, I'm not sure it's appreciated enough, especially now when anybody can do their own music completely

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#61 2015-09-12 03:05:48

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^ on a brighter note and an even smaller world, I got to know MV and Dean from Tower Recordings quite well, I've slept on Dean's couch more than on a few times over the years.
They were a lovely bunch and still have kept a great ethic and vibe to all their spin-off projects (I'm quite partial to the 'MV and EE with The Bummer Road'  recordings).

Coil's sound was a work of art, simple but very pyscho-acousticaly active -lot's of false/room harmonics creating 'ghost tones' and tons of 'post processing' thro' obscure and homemade fx boxes,
the use of non-musical sounds and using/abusing the sound desk as an instrument at mix down was always fun to watch.
Difficult bastards to work with tho', they were at their peak of their alcohol/psychedelic use at the time.

Last edited by Acton_Baby (2015-09-12 03:09:18)


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#62 2015-09-12 03:09:05

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An Unseen Scene wrote:

From where I am, I can't post Google links until back as you know.

But one area of my life that involved incredibly weird music was setting up and running psychedelic/wyrd folk music site The Unbroken Circle which led to a CDr series 'Lammas Night Laments'.  For The Unbroken Circle I was reviewing a lot of music with and without labels and released I could help with a new distribution method.   It was an interesting challenge to take the most conservative music form and apply it to the most modern, non-physical distribution medium.   So I created a fast growing legal music download service/un-music label/artist-collaborative/social forum site called 'Woven Wheat Whispers'.   This then led to a full double CD release and accompanying double-CD length additional download called 'John Barleycorn Reborn' that curated all the unknown new artists of relevance making the music.  Somehow it won folk album of the year from HMV back when such things still mattered.

This double CD went from new traditional folk with darker themes through to genuinely strange artists, field recordings, folk dance recordings in a homage to the work of such as Cecil Sharp and Alan Lomax.  The 'Lammas Night Laments' collected 15 CDrs over the years of out of print old strange folk and related music from the 50s-70s and ended once they started being reissued properly.  Many of the old artists were involved and no money was ever charged.  Latter on Bob Stanley did the same thing fully legally with Cherrystones and other CD series that were issued at the 'height' of revived interest.   I believe they can easily be found with a bit of digging online but I don't have them anymore.

There were a lot of further plans to do after the CD set but very quickly the new global download players (Apple, Amazon) were eating in too much and the effort taking over my life so I stopped it all.  As a one-person initiative doing it for the love rather than money, managing the MCPS-PRS compliance was a nightmare as they weren't set up for small download services at the time.

The double CD John Barleycorn Reborn had a full concept around it, a calendar of seasonal folk customs online linked to the songs, its own bespoke artwork and was the accumulation of years work that involved putting on side stages of this music at festivals such as Moseley.   I'll post an interview below in which I explained more (strange reading yourself back years later).  These sites and music had me get to know and work with secretive pagans, earth magicians, magical morris dancers, Mummers and cunning folk and led to me being targeted by scary extreme right wingers and ended up with the police involved in threats and attempts to kill someone and me for knowing them.   It still makes me shudder and got very dark for a while.   (As David Tibet / Michael of Current 93 said to me 'Behind the Horns..... the horns'.  Check out his music/life/interests and book 'England's Hidden Reverse' which I deliberately didn't read to avoid it influencing me). 

It felt slightly like a musical journey of The Wicker Man though with a happier ending.  The music in that film was the original inspiration for it all back in the late 80s when a few of us managed to find the fullest version still known ahead of the studios acknowledging its existence and later forums such as Mudcat in the earliest days of the internet.   The full story of all this journey remains untold, I just stopped and disappeared as it got genuinely dangerous with insane followers, police support, BNP and even more right wing attempts to co-opt my 'folk purism', US radical traditionalists, dark post-industrial musicians and others all trying to adopt/destroy what I was doing as suited them.  I seemingly became a very minor conspiracy myth of my own when I shut it all down, deleted the files and moved away from it all.   Artists by then had moved beyond wanting someone to support/curate them and give them a high share of the money and just wanted to get their music on iTunes.  Even if nobody reviewed it, nobody found it, they were paid less being on iTunes seemed to be its own reward.  It was clear that the era for independent music download services was past and soon many other bigger ones went the same way and closed.  Ironically I won an award or 'best ecommerce exit' even though the timing had been forced on me and I lost a fair bit of money doing so.   The relief was immense though.

I spent years getting to the point of the CD release and bringing it all together.   There are artists on there that are still completely obscure, some who would never reveal who they really were.   I had next planned a USA related release with my friends such as In Gowan Ring, P.G. Six, Tower Recordings and others, long before the Devendra Barnhart, Meg Baird, Joanna Newsom, Espers and others emerged who I also knew and released some of (seriously listen to In Gown Ring's 'Glinting Spade' and anything by them and B'eirth you can find)

Anyway, the full set is still available legally on CD (there is a follow up set that was a cash in and nothing to do with me):

http://www.amazon.com/John-Barleycorn-R … B000UYT9NK

http://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/v … 084CD.html    (review)

http://psychedelicfolk.homestead.com/Jo … eborn.html   (review)

http://www.terrascope.co.uk/Features/Jo … eature.htm   (full feature & interview)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/John-Barleycorn … orn+reborn

I see it is available illegally too to download though I wouldn't encourage that of course

I also worked with other sites on collaborative artists showcases such as Fatea and many more, these might still be online.

In a full circle one of the artists I released was the fiddler from The Wicker Man film and a range of the original '60s musicians reinvigorated with the new interest.

It all feels like someone else now, a half remembered dream where you say - did that really happen?    All that time I was married with young children, working, going out and making a life.   How do we fit it all in when young?

Years later Stuart Maconie and others wrote books describing the unconventional folk music of 60s and more recently, I never took a look but suspect all of this wasn't mentioned and had already faded into willing obscurity.

I hope you enjoy the story and possibly the music.   This is the first time I've even mentioned all this for a fair number of years.


[I've edited this post a few times for clarity and legibility]

I think this thread is going to step up a gear very soon.

 

#63 2015-09-12 03:09:39

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^ oh yeah big_smile


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#64 2015-09-12 03:11:59

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Public Image Limited - Death Disco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8v-hxS_PyQ

Always cracked me up that this actually went out on a Thursday night primetime.

 

#65 2015-09-12 03:15:14

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Wow.  That's amazingly close in connection.  There was a beautiful Tower Recordings song that broke down into loads of noise and disturbing processed speech.   Used to freak me out and those new to the music found it actually disturbing.  Not the intent they wanted.   It was a curious time for home grown music.  I recall an artist who started sending me music called 'The Brotherhood of the Occult Sisterhood' who blew my head off with the intensity of their music.  There was also a freeform collective called Davenport who used to do these intense experimental jams as a one off and I tried to get everything they did.  I couldn't believe some of the places they reached, with fleeting moments of beauty before it all fell apart.  Though now I fear with my head in a different place it would be unlistenable.

Musicians who are using stimulants during recording are challenging in my limited experience.  Coil were deliberate/notorious for it of course.   

When I was recording soundscapes/ambient music it was done with real intent around frequencies, processing to create that immersive music and not background chill wallpaper.  One piece I did had motifs of varying short lengths repeated at differing cycles that would lengthen or shorten, it created a very good effect like Eno of never repeating but being familiar enough to drift off while still being conscious of listening.   

After KLF Jimmy Cauty got to some interesting places with sound too, particularly the longform 'Rites of Mu' that circulated but was never issued.

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#66 2015-09-12 03:27:12

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An Unseen Scene wrote:

Blimey, then you know exactly what I mean.  I was aware as I wrote the post that it sounded fantastical, delusional stuff without first hand experience.
What a small world too.

I just realised what you said about Coil too - Coil got an almost 3D hallucinatory sound, often with minimal instrumentation.  Even if I didn't always feel comfortable with the music (which was the point in part) the sound was incredible.    Your work on their music and side artists will have contributed to that.

A few artists have achieved this level of sound immersion - a few come to mind: The Residents, Steve Roach, some Steve Hillage (Rainbow Dome Garden especially), Robert Fripp's soundscapes, Arvo Part, Pauline Oliveros, Gavin Bryars' Titantic album, Constance Demby, Meg Bowles, John Oswald on Grayfolded, Michael Stearns, some ECM like the Peter Eskine 'Star' album, Kevin Braheny, Gil Evans productions for Mles Davis, the Congas amazing reggae album, Sun Ra, the cosmic musique concrete of Parmegianni, Morton Subotnik, the beautiful music for the Tarkosky films by Artemyev, Popul Vuh, some Holger Czukay, Jon Hassel, Laraaji, early Negativaland, Tah Mahal Travellers from Japan, Michel Redolfi especially with his music recorded underwater, Taj Mahal Travellers from Japan.   I guess we are approaching the David Toop 'Ocean of Sound' type thinking.    Music can do very strange things to your head.

Really good studio engineering makes a massive contribution, I'm not sure it's appreciated enough, especially now when anybody can do their own music completely

Reading this and your other lengthy posts, Unseen, I can only echo ZJ's prediction that this thread is about to step up a level far beyond the ken of dilettantes like myself.  Can't wait! I still listen to those David Toop double CDs a lot.

On a slightly unrelated matter, when I used to visit my grandparents in rural Northern Ireland, the travelling fair that stopped by their parish every summer was called the Lammas Fair.  And in retrospect, it had a whiff of the Wicker Man to it.  That and that ramshackle funfair in Father Ted...

Anyway, I await your return from China and your links with great anticipation...

 

#67 2015-09-12 03:28:33

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Mention of PIL took me to Keith Levene and his work in USA.   

What was that track with the civil emergency-military speech over it about 'Stay indoors' by Keith LeBlanc (another Keith)  .  Chilling and great.      Just found it on this:  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Terminal-City-R … soundtrack
It should be on youtube.   Here's the track:  Message From Our Sponsor/Object-Subject

That also takes me back to Tackhead which shared musicians and the Adrian Sherwood sound.   'Mind At The End Of Its Tether'.

Talking of speech on records too - anyone heard 'Christian Zeal and Activity' by John Adams:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian … d_Activity
Try it on that Youtube - it always intrigues and unsettles me.

Also the track 'RF' by Scanner (chilling) and the original version of 'Here Comes The Flood' with a scientist talking about global cooling over Frippertronics in an extended opening section.

One of the best soundscape/spoken word releases is the three part 'Solitude' trilogy by Glenn Gould which he doesn't play a note in, but creates these amazing field/word recordings about the nature of solitude.

I mentioned Jimmy Cauty - when he did Black Smoke (go look them up ....oh and FTFFs) there was a truly sad track that combined Silent Night with supposed sound recordings of observers to 9-11.

Levene was connected with Pigface which were connected with Lard and Ministry.   I loved that hard early sound.   Bands like Frontline Assembly.

Then onto early Sub-Pop the psychedelia of Bongwater who I'm sure I heard Bugs Bunny in there somewhere.

So many links can go from one mention of PIL.   Off out now, back later.

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#68 2015-09-12 03:41:36

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Really loving everyones contributions,
perhaps the thread should have been called 'Ocean of Sound' in honour Dave Toop's excellent book and cd.

That early post-punk and early industrial stuff is a very fertile bed, lots of oddness abounds.
Delta 5, Bush Tetras, anything on Hard Wax records, Family Fodder the list is very long.

Like PiL, Throbbing Gristle is another nexus of the strange - Coil, Chris and Cosey, Psychic TV and loads more.

For a field recording, acoustic sound bending ur-text try...
Alvin Luciers - I Am Sitting In A Room


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#69 2015-09-12 03:43:31

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I am literally going out of the door when you mention Alvin Luciers - now that will make you hallucinate.   So simple, so head messing.   I feel odd remembering it, like drugs but music....well sound not music exactly..

right, this time I'm out of here.  Blimey Alvin Luciers.......

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#70 2015-09-12 03:46:19

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An Unseen Scene wrote:

Then onto early Sub-Pop the psychedelia of Bongwater who I'm sure I heard Bugs Bunny in there somewhere.

My fave Bongwater tune is 'Dazed and Chinese' - it's Dazed and Confused played in 'sludgy' 5/4 time with the lyrics in Cantonese.
Can't find it on youTube tho'.


"I have about 100 pairs of pyjamas. I like to see people dressed comfortably."
Hugh Hefner

 

#71 2015-09-12 05:01:44

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#72 2015-09-12 05:09:43

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I agree with Unseen, there was a time in the past when most of this music made some sense.
A lot of it is unlistenable through the lense of age and in the cold light of day but a lot of this creative, experimental stuff served as great referencing when I was a musician.
Pure nonsense and hapless happy accidents can lead to amazing sense sometimes.

Ferdinand Richard - Télé, après la météo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXtShN98u5k

 

#73 2015-09-12 05:17:03

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#74 2015-09-12 06:34:09

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Suicide I admired but struggled to settle to as a listener.  What an amazing first album they did.  That live concert with the riot too.  They seemed to live the music.  Makes me think of early Cabaret Voltaire too.

 

#75 2015-09-12 06:40:32

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Acton_Baby wrote:

Like PiL, Throbbing Gristle is another nexus of the strange - Coil, Chris and Cosey, Psychic TV and loads more.

Throbbing Gristle scared me just with descritions of them then I heard Gorgio Moroder esque sequencer driven disco in their name and was totally confused.  However they were just too slightly militant and intense looking for me.   I read about them in those Re/Search books from USA (with articles on home built robots, body modification, cyberpunk and the like) and I was quite intimidated even just reading about them.

Genisis P. Orridge (and his various personalities) have caused a lot of controversy and media hysteria over the years but always seemed kinda sweet when interviewed.   

Chirs and Cosey I think have been genuine artists, with craft, talent and beauty within their music.  They often sound like slightly futuristic pop music for midwinter (Goldfrapp surely were listening).

That TG track was extremely close to late 1970s Tangerine Dream of the time - now there was a band.   Also the album by their tour player 'Departure From A Northern Wasteland' is an immense Berlin-school melodic synth album.   

While some of the solo material by the members could be too melodic for this topic, the longer experimental soundscape works by lead Edgar Froese certainly qualify and radiate beauty.    Although I have loads of it, I've never really taken Klaus Schulze's music to heart but recognise its talent.    RIP Edgar Froese.

Last edited by An Unseen Scene (2015-09-12 06:43:32)

 

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