http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/nov/29/ian-dury-popandrock
I'd love to know more about those early days with Peter Blake, wearing Ivy League & listening to Jazz.
Well he listened to jazz right up until the end. He digged Coltrane and was well schooled and a lecturer in art. He had been a brilliant student in the '60's, I'm pretty much sure he wasn't a Ted in those days. Modern jazz = Ivy League.
In a TV interview he was recalling his days at art college and mentioned Peter Blake's "herringbone jacket with a hook vent"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QWMF07nFso
There's something lovely about this.
I bet your Muvva fed you with a catapult!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ6DjzXVO1g
Blake was a BEATNIK! Stop trying to make out that everyone cool wore Ivy League!
The banning of Spasticus Autisticus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaNQT7G2R_I&feature=related
C'mon Jim... Levis jeans with big turn ups. Levis jackets, sandals, baseball boots, turtlenecks, beard. I'm sorry chum, Ivy cannot claim this cat.
He's beat baby!
Wore Ivy too. Just like Jack.
Ivy was a part of Beat.
And surely this by now you know, Malchik?
- That I should live so long and suffer so -
Feh!
Jim, I'm quite interested to hear more of your ideas that Ivy was part of Beat.
I'm sure Ace Face could contribute to this debate...
I read in a book that Jack wore Ivy. Early on, mixed in with all the rest.
They were just American clothes back then. He just wore American clothes.
Exactly. And what Blake wore was more than just British clothes of the time. Like Joe Orton and many other creatives of the time, he made a decision to adopt some of the 'uniform' of the Beat.
Lee Harvey Oswald wore Ivy too...
http://www.empire-uk.com/images/crew%20cut%20oswald.jpg
http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/oswald/timeline/images/enlarged/t_1959.jpg
^ Nice!
They're only clothes.
This is the thing Jim. When are people conciously wearing Ivy or just wearing the clothes of the time? You could have a photograph of some guy wearing draipipe jeans and a leather jacket which were de rigueur in the late seventies but were they 'punk rock' or just fresh from Milletts?
Indeed.
And the current construct of Ivy (let alone 'Trad') is not what it was then.
We don't really know these clothes at all.
Aye.
I talk about GG (not that he needs it), but long before him came Chris.
And isn't all this just how clothing styles have been so perverted on the US MBs?
- Good post - I can taste the salt!
jim