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  #1    January 31st, 2010, 14:10 
miurasv 
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Has anyone got nasty with you over the way you're dressed?

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The other night I wore Crombie pink cords and Crombie Country Olive Coat with a white shirt, burgundy pocket square/handkerchief and Cheeney Crocodile (mock) boots and somebody I knew got so aggressive and nasty with me about the way I was dressed that the barman at the club I was in noticed and he got the bouncers to throw the guy out. Has anything similar happened to you?


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Remember the guy who claimed that wearing a pocket square got him fired from a big law firm?

It could be that the wearer's  demeanor or attitude could affect how much they get picked on more than what they're wearing. When I wear bold stuff, people like it, even some of the roughest customers. When you wear clothes, you have to have a certain sense of humor about fancy items.  Some of these guys want to be taken too seriously and already have stiff personalities and others want to dress like they've always wanted to be an 8 year old girl, which is going to elicit some comments.

Film, believe you me it isn't. Remember a while ago me and Ace Face telling you about how wearing the wrong thing in Britain can get you into serious trouble before you have even opened your mouth. This is what makes all the iGent talk about classic British dress so f**king funny.

Film Noir Buff wrote:

formby wrote:

Film Noir Buff wrote:

Remember the guy who claimed that wearing a pocket square got him fired from a big law firm?

It could be that the wearer's  demeanor or attitude could affect how much they get picked on more than what they're wearing. When I wear bold stuff, people like it, even some of the roughest customers. When you wear clothes, you have to have a certain sense of humor about fancy items.  Some of these guys want to be taken too seriously and already have stiff personalities and others want to dress like they've always wanted to be an 8 year old girl, which is going to elicit some comments.

Film, believe you me it isn't. Remember a while ago me and Ace Face telling you about how wearing the wrong thing in Britain can get you into serious trouble before you have even opened your mouth. This is what makes all the iGent talk about classic British dress so f**king funny.

Personally, it wouldn't bother me because I have a quick temper myself, but it's different in the USA where you can get picked on for being small or looking effeminate or too pretty. But nice clothes will usually only get you robbed. Most of the low life here love clothes and respect a snappy dresser. Plus a few of them might think you're "connected".

Another notable thing, we striate our watering holes more than you do. I go to places where people who want to fight cant afford to go. In England, it seems like the pubs are some sort of common ground by neighborhood. You can also get arrested here much more easily for things I think they allow in the UK.

I think in general you are correct. In England though, especially the cities, the best places are far more select in the clientèle they let in, certainly in London there are places were if you don't look the right sort, you'll be turned away. Quite tight too, why should you put up with abuse for caring to dress well.

The problem places tend to be the old ex-industrial cities and towns where you can suffer quite a bit of verbal abuse and goading. The British mentality is different to the American one, there is sadly a 'not how can I be successful' attitude' but more of a 'how can I stop you being successful' attitude. There are people in Britain who think 'if they can't have it' then they 'nobody else should have it' That's what you get for rewarding people for sitting on their arses rather than working.

formby wrote:

Film Noir Buff wrote:

formby wrote:

Film, believe you me it isn't. Remember a while ago me and Ace Face telling you about how wearing the wrong thing in Britain can get you into serious trouble before you have even opened your mouth. This is what makes all the iGent talk about classic British dress so f**king funny.

Personally, it wouldn't bother me because I have a quick temper myself, but it's different in the USA where you can get picked on for being small or looking effeminate or too pretty. But nice clothes will usually only get you robbed. Most of the low life here love clothes and respect a snappy dresser. Plus a few of them might think you're "connected".

Another notable thing, we striate our watering holes more than you do. I go to places where people who want to fight cant afford to go. In England, it seems like the pubs are some sort of common ground by neighborhood. You can also get arrested here much more easily for things I think they allow in the UK.

I think in general you are correct. In England though, especially the cities, the best places are far more select in the clientèle they let in, certainly in London there are places were if you don't look the right sort, you'll be turned away. Quite tight too, why should you put up with abuse for caring to dress well.

The problem places tend to be the old ex-industrial cities and towns where you can suffer quite a bit of verbal abuse and goading. The British mentality is different to the American one, there is sadly a 'not how can I be successful' attitude' but more of a 'how can I stop you being successful' attitude. There are people in Britain who think 'if they can't have it' then they 'nobody else should have it' That's what you get for rewarding people for sitting on their arses rather than working.

Well those select places are the only places I want to go to anyway. Besides, Im not considered an easy target here and find it hard to imagine I'd be the first choice to be picked on over there. Fine clothes are as much loved by gangsters as wusses but wusses seem to post more on clothing forums.

Dont discount guns. Guns are a big factor in the USA. We have a lot of hand gun violence because they're easy to get. People are more careful here because you might be packing.

Film Noir Buff wrote:

formby wrote:

Film Noir Buff wrote:

Personally, it wouldn't bother me because I have a quick temper myself, but it's different in the USA where you can get picked on for being small or looking effeminate or too pretty. But nice clothes will usually only get you robbed. Most of the low life here love clothes and respect a snappy dresser. Plus a few of them might think you're "connected".

Another notable thing, we striate our watering holes more than you do. I go to places where people who want to fight cant afford to go. In England, it seems like the pubs are some sort of common ground by neighborhood. You can also get arrested here much more easily for things I think they allow in the UK.

I think in general you are correct. In England though, especially the cities, the best places are far more select in the clientèle they let in, certainly in London there are places were if you don't look the right sort, you'll be turned away. Quite tight too, why should you put up with abuse for caring to dress well.

The problem places tend to be the old ex-industrial cities and towns where you can suffer quite a bit of verbal abuse and goading. The British mentality is different to the American one, there is sadly a 'not how can I be successful' attitude' but more of a 'how can I stop you being successful' attitude. There are people in Britain who think 'if they can't have it' then they 'nobody else should have it' That's what you get for rewarding people for sitting on their arses rather than working.

Well those select places are the only places I want to go to anyway. Besides, Im not considered an easy target here and find it hard to imagine I'd be the first choice to be picked on over there. Fine clothes are as much loved by gangsters as wusses but wusses seem to post more on clothing forums.

There's a certain aspirational attitude to Americans which is very refreshing, you're a relatively new country which on the whole doesn't seem to be burdened with class distinctions as Britain does. I'm sure that class distinctions exist in the U.S. but they manifest themselves differently I think and I don't think they are as destructive as they are in Britain.

Also, in my experience Americans are far more polite and better behaved than the British. The British, and I've said this before are a rabble.

Film Noir Buff wrote:

Dont discount guns. Guns are a big factor in the USA. We have a lot of hand gun violence because they're easy to get. People are more careful here because you might be packing.

True. Hopefully an igent vigilante hero will emerge in due course. He rides the subway wearing 16 ounce suits, and Edward Green shoes with freshly applied edge dressing. When approached by punks he produces a handgun and three hoodlums bite the dust - a Bernard Goetz for the clothing forum era.

formby wrote:

The British mentality is different to the American one, there is sadly a 'not how can I be successful' attitude' but more of a 'how can I stop you being successful' attitude. There are people in Britain who think 'if they can't have it' then they 'nobody else should have it' That's what you get for rewarding people for sitting on their arses rather than working.

I suspect that's true across Europe.  It's definitely the case here in France.

Making progress in the States, too.

Film Noir Buff wrote:

This is the sort of disservice they provide for poor, unassuming members. If this outfit is going to get rave, encouraging reviews, then how is a person ever to learn how not to wear things this unfortunate.

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Rave reviews, misleading the unfortunate.

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Oh good lord, that's a fucking disaster.

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BBC;2960134 wrote:

Cold and rainy today in the South

Mystery-maker gray/black herringbone tweed 3/2 sack suit
Mystery British maker yellow doeskin vest
BB braces
LE wool tie
Gitman Bros tab collar shirt
Bass argyles
Florsheim cg longwings
Press charcoal herringbone overcoat (not pictured)

The enormous patch pockets are awful. The shoulders are a complete mess and that vest enhances the thrift store mood of the ensemble.

JDelage wrote:

Is it bespoke?  I'm trying to understand how he could have a bespoke suit made of "mystery tweed".

The mystery is why he got it made up at all.




Is this a green suit?

calvinloke;2960026 wrote:

Boring suit again, but not so boring tie. Actually a newly bought tie.

Big Tony wrote:

^ That shit only works for Prince Michael of Kent, which those photos prove.

Another case of our "classless" society slavering after royalty?

The suit is quite sloppy in its fit. It is unbelievable that he's using a green pocket square. As  color the silver tie on the white shirt with the pea green suit isnt a bad color combination for a floral arrangement but for a man's outfit it's something of an oddity. No one I know would wear such an ensemble and I feel relieved that this is the case.

This place is just green with envy.

Big Tony wrote:

I am talking about the MASSIVE/WIDE necktie, tied in a quadruple Windsor knot, that is curved outwards as if with a wire stiffener.

Buffy is talking about the accessories and color/pattern details, as always.

It looks OK to me. It could be the camera lens exaggerating the tie. The suit fit and colour combinations look pretty good too.

Film Noir Buff wrote:

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Something frightens me about this jacket pattern, it's like the skin or shell of an armadillo. The patch pockets are a rotten idea and the cloth looks like it can't bend. The TV fold white hanky only exacerbates the stiffness of the wearer, who resemble a plastic mannequin. I half expect someone to swing him horizontally under their arm and place him in another part of the park.

I bet most of his own pictures are photoshopped with fit corrections and all, that would explain the apparent artificiality. He's shown to be quite able in Photoshop himself especially with homoerotic themes.

I think the problem with this cloth is not of concept but of execution. I've seen modern interpretations of the gun club that are actually quite nice.

Oh, and by the way, with a 16 oz cloth like this one,  tailors can get away with unskillfulness that would be very clearly revealed with an 8 oz cloth.