Yes hbh, I am aware of the traditional press suspenders w/button hole fastening. I just dont like suspenders ful stop, even the surcingle style.. and I am a fan of the belt.  Im a belt kinda guy. 

Agreed, NV. What a waste of a night out, but where there are drunks there are fights.

On the rare occasion I get out now, it's for a drink and a dance with the wife who loves Ivy. Smart and clean, it's the business.

With regard to 'prep' BTW, 1970-whatever and Ryan O'Neal apart (blurring of the distinctions there, I think), they - stateside - give the game away to such a degree the subject is no longer worth pursuing.  But, if you keep on wearing, say, Lacoste - even Brooks or J.Crew - you might continue to have a touch of 'prep' about you.  Only, in England, no-one knows or cares; it means nothing.

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I am sure many Jews would have had direct rag trade contacts in the 60s and 70s.

I worked with a very urbane chartered accountant in the 70s. Admittedly he was a bit of a tubster with a moustache and it was the days of the Rodney Bewes suit with flares and enormous lapels. Anyway, when his father died he gave in his notice and took over the family firm. They were trouser makers. He claimed trousers were more difficult than jackets.

I also remember Gladstones in Willesden Green. The family were always there on a Saturday, different generations with what I assumed were visiting relatives putting in a shift from time to time. I bought a blazer there once and one of those relatives was waxing lyrical about a blazer he had just got for himself at many times what I had paid for mine. Yes there was always salesmanship there but also a very obvious love for clothes. Gladstones also seemed to have a better atmosphere for the owners/workforce than most High Street chains.

^ I like the speech where Terry tells Bob how much he hates Chelsea and all their celebrity fans. He hates London and Southerners, which includes the residents of Middlesbrough. In fact, he does not like anybody outside of Newcastle......... and there a good few in his street he is not keen on.

I had a girlfriend at the time who was similar in colouring to Thelma - but not quite so censorious.