I guess the trouble with these is they could soon become as dodgy as blue jeans. Wait until Clarkson discovers them. I just gave away a pair to my brother-in-law that were cheap, relatively cheerful but soon rumpled in a way I doubt he'll tolerate very long. Our Cliff spit-shines his Trickers and his jeans never fail to spend an hour on the ironing-board. The sand Levis I just paid a fiver for are almost as stiff as Sta-Prest at the moment, but look okay. The old Levis I've had since about 2006 or 2007 are still excellent, however. The Abercrombie and Fitch I had a few years back were also pretty decent.