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#1 2010-08-11 14:09:18
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Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
I cannot tell you how much I loathe this film: its crass chauvinism in particular. The scenes set in Italy are worth watching, but only because almost anything set in Italian cities attracts my interest. I wonder what Daniele thinks of it. Cameron's use of Caine and his laddish paraphrasing only added to my sense of nausea. And that fucking tune!!
#2 2010-08-11 14:40:28
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
Agreed, I watched it a few years ago and found the portrayal of criminals as ultra-sophisticated somewhat farcical; I don't look down on criminals, nor do I look up to them. Discounting that the film left me distinctly unimpressed.
Swinging London? no thanks. As some other scholarly contributors and I agreed on another thread recently, the 60s went downhill after around 65.
some sort of banal legitimacy
#3 2010-08-11 15:03:03
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
It's a caper movie for fuck sake, it's supposed to be glamorous!
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#4 2010-08-12 06:31:36
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
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#5 2010-08-12 07:41:34
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
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#6 2010-08-12 07:50:27
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
I repeat, I wonder what Daniele thinks of it. Witty Brits versus Funny Old Johnny Foreigner.
#7 2010-08-12 07:54:18
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#8 2010-08-12 08:18:56
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
Hype-busting is good for the soul. I had a shock when my dear old Dad told me he didn't much like Charlie Parker.
We agreed that Wardell Grey is better.
#9 2010-08-12 09:14:14
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#10 2010-08-12 09:16:59
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
My old man knows more about jazz than most of us have forgotten. He can tell you what colour Mulligan's undershorts were the day the cops unearthed his stash.
#11 2010-08-12 09:34:13
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
Strange, I even like him with strings and all...
I'm not a "fan" of anyone... "fan" in this case meaning that I've collected every single note of the esteemed person... but with Charlie Parker it's something else.... yes, he played very fast sometimes, but I don't think he played too much...
He was a giant if there ever was one...
and why for Chrisakes are we talking about him in the Italian Job thread?
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”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
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#12 2010-08-12 09:35:01
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
His father was a Milanese baker.
#13 2010-08-12 09:52:54
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
Parker works with strings, as it was one of the few times he was recorded well, plus it was the first time strings were paired with be-bop.
Who can not enjoy Noel Coward's regal gangster in the Italian Job, superb. Also great music by Quincy Jones.
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#14 2010-08-12 09:55:00
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Re: Swinging London: "The Italian Job"
Afraid I can't. Poor Quincy. Still, it's a living.