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#1 2010-08-25 14:25:22
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Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
I just don't believe it happens. Not in England. We're too individualistic. There's always got to be a catch and a twist. I'm not claiming that it's 'subversive'. But it is fun. It also 'thickens up the blood a bit'. That's the strictly modernist side of it. Thanks for Brooks, though, guys, and a whole host of others. Best stuff available, back in the day, for malchicks who didn't want imitation 'city gent'. But the Italian and Japanese influences are overlaying and overlapping once more.
#2 2010-08-25 23:48:32
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
Yes. The point is just the look - It's a style thing. Also we wear the same clothes very differently on either side of the pond and they give off very different & varied meanings.
An old fantasy of mine was 'Harris' arriving in London and being regarded as a bit of a hard case, probably a Cabby, as he minced around the West End...
The flip side of that was my little crew in NYC back in the day: Vagabond guttersnipes being treated very nicely by everyone we met.
Never judge a book by its cover?
Or just be very wary of in what context you encounter said book.
#3 2010-08-25 23:50:04
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
We have a new young brother, Uncle. Calls himself Guy the Bore. But he's anything but.
#4 2010-08-25 23:53:25
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
Fresh blood is always good.
#7 2010-08-27 02:46:31
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#8 2010-08-27 12:56:23
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
Aye.
Troll to Troll.
#9 2010-08-27 13:49:20
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
It's getting hard to know who one might be emulating or imitating. The Japanese do some Ivy League clothing things better than old-line New England families do. Who is a person emulating, the source of something or its current best practitioner? Does it make any difference, really?
I suppose it really comes down to a person's style, which is certainly well-informed by the place he was born and all that.
"It is my belief that nearly any invented quotation, played with confidence, stands a good chance to deceive."
- Mark Twain
#10 2010-08-28 08:58:02
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."
#11 2010-08-28 09:00:29
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."
#13 2010-08-28 13:15:11
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
What Tony is concerned with, is who is going to be in a position to define what is the orthodoxy?
And at this stage of the game, it looks like a bunch of cockneys and those who consider Italian style more Ivy than made in the USA Ivy. Possibly.
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#14 2010-08-28 13:50:36
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
As he says, does it make any difference?
#16 2010-08-29 03:09:29
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
I was born in Westminster.
#17 2010-08-29 03:12:26
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
Could you hear dem bells from the House of Lords? Are you, by any chance, related to Bertrand Russell Street, the great Ivy philosopher and founder-member of CND?
#18 2010-08-29 03:19:48
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
Later, when I lived there once more, I could enjoy Big Ben as I lay in the bath...
#19 2010-08-29 03:21:58
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
And did Big Ben enjoy you in his turn?
#20 2010-08-29 09:27:50
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#21 2010-09-03 12:36:35
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
I was born in Mile End - there, I've said it. Lor, luvaduck etc.
We're English and always were English that's why we're standing up for our rights to be Ivy wearing modernists.
Me? Conspicuous? Lady, I'm the invisible man.
#22 2010-09-03 12:56:38
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Re: Dubious: Emulating the Americans To The Nth Degree
Exactly, lets have less of that Italian tarantella mambo, lets keep it real; the Anglo-Ivy connection.
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