Yes, yes...

I just don't think it's such a big thing in this case.

I've heard that in some countries all sorts of sweaters and jumpers (no matter if crew neck or v or polo) are called "pullovers" in general...


But don't worry, Jim, I won't start calling my look "preppy", "Trad" or "PITA"...

In Germany, also. A sweater / jumper is called a "pullover". Whereas a vest is called "pullunder". God knows why.

Are there differences between popover and pullover shirts? I always thought that "popover" was a more familiar term. Brooks call these shirts "pull-over", if I recall it correctly.
What is the correct expression? This is IMPORTANT, because it has impact on my search on ebay et al.

Axelist wrote:

Are there differences between popover and pullover shirts? I always thought that "popover" was a more familiar term. Brooks call these shirts "pull-over", if I recall it correctly.
What is the correct expression? This is IMPORTANT, because it has impact on my search on ebay et al.

I'm not sure.

As I understand it, a pullover shirt was the norm in the earlier part of the 20th century. During the 1920s or 1930s the coat style shirt with the full placket became fashionable and it slowly replaced the pullover style shirt. After WWII the coat style was much more popular. Miles wearing a pullover shirt during the mid-'50s was almost an anachronism. Well, maybe not an anachronism, but in general the style was dated at that time.

You can see in these photos that these earlier pullover style shirts were almost tucked in the trousers completely. Furthermore at this time most people would still wear three-piece suits (except on very hot days). So the pullover style was not visible. Shirts were still regarded as underwear back then, anyway...


What we're calling the popover shirt here, the shirts with the little placket, is a slighty different animal. A fashion from the Ivy boom years that lasted well into the 1980s. The short placket is meant to be seen. It is related to the older style, of course, but it's not the same. These popovers often came as half sleeves and were much more casual. Popular with teens and twens in the 60s, a hip young fashion.

J.Simons in Russell Street sold the old Troy popovers.

Or we could call all edible desserts pudding.

Last edited by The Thin Repp (2012-08-02 04:14:58)

Russell...Street wrote:

What's wrong about some sweets?

Nothing at all.


... Just as long as you ain't a nonce...

jesmond wrote:

Russell...Street wrote:

What's wrong about some sweets?

Nothing at all.


... Just as long as you ain't a nonce...

I only have problems.

No candy, sorry, jesmond!

Sure?

Tomiskinky wrote:

Gotta say, all the new Gants I have bought have had plenty of collar roll, must just be a few that have been messed with?

I must say I'm very pleased with the roll on my two new Gant popovers, although I've never owned anything fancy like Brooks or Mercer or any vintage button-downs for comparison.

Max

You're not answering the question.

Last edited by jesmond (2012-08-02 06:32:13)

No.

For a minute there a wasn't sure if i was on talk ivy, or the wardrobe.

Yeah big l sent me that i think i tried to buy it but it may have us shippin, or that was a different one, darcy has a nice one in tartan i was going to grab.