Same here, I've always begrudged paying top dollar for jumpers. They get holes in if you wear them a lot and moths prefer them to any other clothing.

Cheap cotton jumpers are ideal. Why pay top dollar for a superior product.

M & S sort of G4 in a Natural
  Bean Tat with Flap breast pocket (still not 100% happy with the collar)
   Crew Clothing Straight leg Navy trousers ( 11 .5 rise and 8 " hem) no alteration needed!
  Tan handmade leather belt with silver plain buckle
   Seiko 5 with Tan strap
    Bean Blucher Mocs

Last edited by Armchaired (2012-09-14 02:06:20)

Shooie - A very 'andsome shoe indeed.

Armie - Nice and casual. Are those the 'Essential' range from J.Crew.?

Meeting her indoors later for our fortnightly date.

Probably be :

Brooks 3/2 herringbone sack
Gant vintage cream shirt
Alan Paine Grey V Neck
L.E. Chino Navy - tapered 8" hem
John Spencer pennies

Last edited by Richard Bergman (2012-09-14 03:00:11)

Is it an optical illusion, my bad screen/bad eyes, just bloody good pattern matching or is that jacket without pockets?

Also, does Claudio now make undarted jackets for his own line? I know he had the JS blazer made without but I've never seen any of his DNA jackets undarted.

BTW, nice pics of late. I've enjoyed them, Oliver. Hope you and yours had a great time on vacation.

Chances are it'll settle into a more relaxed roll if you continue to wear it like that. Obviously not a full on 3/2 but it'll settle lower than in that picture I'd guess.

I'll leave the advice to the more knowledgeable posters, as I've only had experience with this on a madras 3 button that was almost completely without structure*. A different kettle of fish.

*All I had to do with the Madras in that case was hang it up in the bathroom while i was in the shower and the steam allowed me to push the roll a little lower. Not an option for you of course.

Last edited by Liam Mac (2012-09-14 09:53:02)

Liam, I may try to take my personal steamer to it and see if that softens the roll. I would definitely prefer it as a 3/2 though. I love the jacket and pattern itself. That fit is straight from Claudio btw, haven't had a chance for any alterations.

I swear I have that same shirt... the Gant Tattersall?

Nah, it's typical of what I know of the Bean Roll, (not a euphemism) the Bean shirts I've got are like that, it is small, there is not much roll, but I wouldn't worry mate, move on with your life, and concern yourself with front-rises! (again not a euphemism)

I've not seen a mercer, but I think I've seen most other rolls and I have to say, the only one that is ever right is the Brooks Makers, but they do a very odd thing with them, the button is positioned behind where it would naturally lay which creates the bell shape. Near enough every other bd collar sits down to where it should naturally lay. so creates just a straight drop down when buttoned, then if the fabric is of a certain weight it will resist folding, where as with the Makers it is forced to bow slightly. I think this thing of the perfect roll is al fine a groovy, but at the end of the day, if the collar isn't heavily fused so it sits up under your chin, then I'm happy.

Last edited by My Grandfather's Pants (2012-09-14 12:54:18)