I think we need to get ourr heads round the cross pollination of mens sportswear and ivy in the 50's lead to the campus/sports style as well as the man at home from work at the weekend. Like Acton said, BD in the office, loop collar at home, on and off duty.
But this is only really for people wanting to prove authenticity, or those who are being challenged on it. Otherwise wear what you like. Only uniforms have rules, but i'll always adhere to the natural shoulder, the tapered trousers, and the absence of a break.
Last edited by My Grandfather's Pants (2012-12-14 00:45:04)
My opinion: prints were part of the boom years ivy canon, just about, but they were kids' stuff, and have not dated well at all. Too swinging 60s; if you're going to a mod night, particularly one where they play freakbeat and all that crap, then you may get kudos for wearing one, however you'll need to accompany it with a bouffant and skin tight hipsters. A frightening thought.
Have you noticed all/nearly all prints shirts have smaller collars?
Did the greats (Brooks, Troy Guild, Sero) ever do them ?
Last edited by Yuca (2012-12-14 01:14:05)
Thinking of prints, I tried to get Prints Buster down the 100 Club this New Year's but he's been very very poorly lately. We send him our best.
Last edited by Liam Mac (2012-12-14 07:14:07)
Wonder if the original Ivy printed shirts took their inspiration from foulard ties?
Just an idle thought...
The Dad on the TV show 'The Wonder Years' used to wear a lot of these in his off duty hours, I've remembered. He was a big lump of a lower middle class, middle aged, Conservative American.... A nice world where people like that dressed like this - The world that ruins the 'Trad' fantasy.
I do draw religious parallels here like we're looking at the same book and drawing different conclusions, hopefully no one will ever suggest such a thing such as female Ivyist or we might see a split in the church.
'The Seven Sisters Look' - The girls have their own version which is currently woefully under recorded, apart from by Ms. Tuite, who has the usual college-based obsession. Business is business.
The SSL was very big with hip Black girls when their boys were wearing Ivy and digging Miles.
I can see elements of it in the original Ivy inflected 'Mod' girl look too (Different to the one McInnes records in his essay 'Sharp Schmutter') - Those sensible shoes from Berber (was it?) on High Street Ken. and skirts to the knee & no higher. 'Bernice Bobs Her Hair' hairstyles and prim knitwear worn by music loving funsters...
Entertainingly Ms. Tuite's first name is Rebecca - Just like 'Ivy Girl' who used to post on here from down in Brighton. The one the world thought was me in drag...
Alas, we are out of touch now. Is she still 'Ivy' with her 'Jump The Gun' handbags ?
By now she must have graduated. Did she stay in Hove?
.........................................................................
Rebecca was also the name of my designer friend whom I worked with on the Stedman project, plus it is the name of one of Mr. Paul Simons' lovely twin sisters, AND it was Louis Auchincloss' nickname at school or college... It all connects.
My name is Kevin Beigel. Connected to everything.
Woolrich 60/40 and bean boots, on the fringes but I'd say nay.
anyway on with the prints!
JS did a shirt in a paisley print recently, I wasn't a fan of the colour though. I really liked the Aloha Hawaiin print shirt he made though.
Ivy ? She told me her name was Gwen