For what it's worth, I'd agree they're not Ivy, but a good pair (RM Williams ?), are a thing of beauty, but please only brown leather or suede, however they are a no-no with chinos, (IMO), but look good with jeans, cord 5 pockets, I bought a pair of Astorflex leather chukka/db's from 46CS just over a year ago, dainite sole, I've been very pleased with them, they look different to the suede Astorflex but work well in the current sloshy weather, go for it TRS !

I came back from Australia with one of those wide brim hats only suitable for wearing in the garden, unless you choose to grow a beard and dress in the style of Terry Pratchett.

I did not consider RM Williams at the time. I subsequently bought a pair in New Bond Street. The wholecut upper was a big selling point. I cannot look at other boots without seeing the join , usually below the elastic and rejecting them on account of it. RM Williams are very comfortable once you have them on but you do need a shoehorn so not ideal for airports.

They are not Ivy but they do go with plenty of clothing.

Always associated them with The Beatles. Never had a pair, have considered the C&J's version. But I've concern that the elastic on the knuckle might go and how to fix that?

I had a go at chelsea boots back around late 80's/early 90's. Pretty sure I would have put them with orange tab Levis, roll neck, a brown trucker and one of those John Lennon corduroy caps. In an instant I went from modern mod (if there can be such a thing) to looking like I was on my way to a poorly informed swingin' sixties fancy dress party.

They weren't for me then, but being me they went back in the box and moved house with me several times until I recently discovered them in the loft. Not for me now either. If you're used to loafers/db's/CVO or even longwings, looking down at them gives the illusion of them being around a meter long.

There probaby are better lasts than mine, and I can kind of see light brown or suede with denim and a decent knit.Some of those continental guys you see on IG wear them quite well.  Still not sure if they're ivy though?

They're still around, so everyone must be right. They must have earned their place among 'the classics' by now.  But in the real world I only ever notice them with skinny black jeans ala Russell Brand or John Cooper Clarke