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#26 2007-03-03 23:41:16

Coolidge
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Where did I miss this thread...especially like the top of your most recent three. Weejun Love, heh.

 

#27 2007-10-06 05:58:50

Horace
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Re: A Classic American Shoo


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#28 2007-10-06 06:30:35

TB-D
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

This is perhaps the most appropriate thread to post this question on.

Would anyone know where I can lay my hands on a pair of 1940`s US army/USAF officers shoes  or a decent reproduction of ?

I have seen pictures of these shoes from when the US millitary were stationed in the UK during the second world war, they look to be an amazingley robust shoe and aestheticly pleasing.

 

#29 2007-10-06 06:37:47

Horace
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

I'm not sure what they looked like, but if they're what I think they are, there were, when I was a lad, huge baskets and crates of such things at "Army/Navy" stores in the US.  I don't know who the customers were:  punks?  down-and-outers? fashionista types?  frugalites?  I have a feeling you could maybe still find these things, but you'd probably not have as much luck on the web.  If I were you, and you wanted to slog about, you could identity those places in the US that had bases (know de-commissioned), esp. on the west coast, where you'll find a lot of surplus (Boston & New England too), and call up a bunch of places.  Probably to no avail.  Or go the "repro" route.  In which case, the guys at Fedora Lounge might know.  And they might know of some sites that sell the real thing as well.  I remember guys would wear the Naval Officer shoes (not the ever-shiny types) in blucher form, and they always looked good I thought.  WWII a bit harder to find.  Vietnam, not so hard, still perhaps.  You could also find out who had the contracts to make the shoes in WWII and search by name that way, esp. in those towns where production was centered.  I suspect New England and the South at that time.  But maybe elsewhere as well.  My grandfather's stuff, which I still have (Naval), was from Maryland I think.  Quality was superlative.  I can't imagine what you'd have to pay for it today.  The wool on the coats were unbelievable.

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#30 2007-10-07 16:44:03

Howard
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

TB-D wrote:

This is perhaps the most appropriate thread to post this question on.

Would anyone know where I can lay my hands on a pair of 1940`s US army/USAF officers shoes  or a decent reproduction of ?

I have seen pictures of these shoes from when the US millitary were stationed in the UK during the second world war, they look to be an amazingley robust shoe and aestheticly pleasing.

??????????? http://www.dehner.com/CAT-UNIFORM.HTML  ????????????? (You may have to return to "Home" to access the menu)

Last edited by Howard (2007-10-07 16:46:43)

 

#31 2007-10-08 06:08:00

Horace
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Chum,

how accurate are these?  Are they faithful repros?   Unrelated but:  were WWII uni's ever with brown "dress" shoes for the  US Atlantic campaigns?

I think shoeey had some weird size American boots from 1945 at one point.


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#32 2008-03-21 13:04:56

Tony Ventresca
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Horace wrote:

One from Bass, c. 1974:

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4049/weejun742ph.jpg

Looks like Weejuns were crappy low-end shoes, even three decades ago...


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#33 2008-03-22 11:00:16

egadfly
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Tony Ventresca wrote:

Looks like Weejuns were crappy low-end shoes, even three decades ago...

But isn't that the whole point?  Lord knows, I've never treated mine as anything special: they're almost always worn sockless, never polished, and get paired with my oldest khakis or shorts.  Weejuns are the prep's version of sneakers -- dressing them up seems rather silly.

EGF

 

#34 2008-03-22 14:41:00

katon
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

TB-D wrote:

This is perhaps the most appropriate thread to post this question on.

Would anyone know where I can lay my hands on a pair of 1940`s US army/USAF officers shoes  or a decent reproduction of ?

I have seen pictures of these shoes from when the US millitary were stationed in the UK during the second world war, they look to be an amazingley robust shoe and aestheticly pleasing.

http://historypreservation.com/hpassociates/images/serviceshoe.jpg

Buzz Rickson makes a pair. Details here.

Last edited by katon (2008-03-22 14:49:52)

 

#35 2008-03-22 15:22:30

tripchauncey
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Tony Ventresca wrote:

Looks like Weejuns were crappy low-end shoes, even three decades ago...

Chum,

Perchance tru, but it depends on how one defines low-end.  The LL Bean mocs ad posted by our chum Horace up yonder were $11 in '71.  I believe that $29 was a goodly amount for shoos in '74.    Certainly not bench made,, hand sewn, ect. but a good casual shoo.

Just me 2 pence -- in '74 currency.

Cheerio.

edit -- having reviewed the ads from the '50s with $30+ wingtips, perchance I am mistaken.

Last edited by tripchauncey (2008-03-22 15:29:42)

 

#36 2008-03-24 07:39:55

Tony Ventresca
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

^ There seems to be a jump between the 50s Weejuns and the 70s Weejuns, at least from the ads Horace has posted.


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#37 2008-03-26 10:50:34

Tony Ventresca
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

1959.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3601/weejunwt8.jpg


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#38 2008-03-26 11:50:42

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

A very different looking shoe to the one I've known for 23 years.

 

#39 2008-03-26 11:52:14

Tony Ventresca
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Russell_Street wrote:

A very different looking shoe to the one I've known for 23 years.

Yes the one above resembles more the Alden penny loafer, than the current Weejun.


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"Once upon a time, life was not better. It was just different." William Norwich
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#40 2008-03-26 12:45:09

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Tony Ventresca wrote:

Russell_Street wrote:

A very different looking shoe to the one I've known for 23 years.

Yes the one above resembles more the Alden penny loafer, than the current Weejun.

Don't it?

I've seen Bass Ads from '65 which look like the shoos I knew in '85, but those '59-ers are flat little fellows aren't they? Where's that toe box?

 

#41 2008-03-26 12:48:18

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

... & the 74's above are different again (toe boxes a-go-go!).

Ahhh -  The classics!

- We can pretend that they're set in stone, but they never were.

 

#42 2008-03-28 08:47:35

Speas
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

From SI Dec 4 '61


http://i28.tinypic.com/2l8aec0.jpg

 

#43 2008-03-28 09:02:41

AQG
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Speas wrote:

From SI Dec 4 '61


http://i28.tinypic.com/2l8aec0.jpg

Holy Trad foot-sex, Batman!


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#44 2008-03-28 12:39:10

oldog/oldtrix
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

The ‘61s shown are the Weejuns I wore in High School (‘61-‘64), and I recall paying $14.95 for the first pair(s) I purchased.  I remember that figure because I found it noteworthy at the time that the London Fog golf jacket, the U.S. answer to the Baracuta G9 but with self cuffs and hem rather than knit, cost exactly the same, and it was de riguer to wear them both together with chinos/khakis and OCBDs.  Somewhere in that period though, I switched allegiance to Bostonian “weejuns.”  The Bostonians were almost indistinguishable from the Bass but for a true brown color that I preferred to the Bass oxblood.  My attire was still largely Ivy influenced in the mid 70s (practicing law in North Carolina then DC) when I bought my last pair, back to true Weejuns but in the style shown in the ‘74 ad.  A favorite ensemble with the shoes was an olive corduroy sport coat, medium gray flannels, a yellow or blue OCBD, and a madder paisley tie.  That pair was stolen in a burglary in ‘78 when perfectly broken in, and I never bought another as I was already straying into pleated trousers and side vents.  I know I’ve written about much of this before, but I’m getting old and can be forgiven my repetition (both in stories and after eating).  I am reminded though, and I don’t think I’ve written or read this on the boards, the those of us in the know used to antique our Weejuns by alternating black with oxblood polish.  Take that, EG, G&G, et al.

 

#45 2008-03-28 12:50:05

Voltaire's Bastard
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

katon wrote:

TB-D wrote:

This is perhaps the most appropriate thread to post this question on.

Would anyone know where I can lay my hands on a pair of 1940`s US army/USAF officers shoes  or a decent reproduction of ?

I have seen pictures of these shoes from when the US millitary were stationed in the UK during the second world war, they look to be an amazingley robust shoe and aestheticly pleasing.

http://historypreservation.com/hpassoci … ceshoe.jpg

Buzz Rickson makes a pair. Details here.

Forgot to say so at the time, but these are a seriously bitchin' pair of shoes.  Still, it seems weird - to me - that a Japanese company is producing exact replicas of WWII vintage American military gear.   The world can be a strange place sometimes.


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#46 2008-03-28 13:06:10

Tony Ventresca
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Voltaire's Bastard wrote:

Forgot to say so at the time, but these are a seriously bitchin' pair of shoes.  Still, it seems weird - to me - that a Japanese company is producing exact replicas of WWII vintage American military gear.   The world can be a strange place sometimes.

The Japs are currently producing replicas of almost anything you can imagine that is considered "classic Americana". I suspect much of it is better than the originals.

oldog/oldtrix wrote:

I am reminded though, and I don’t think I’ve written or read this on the boards, the those of us in the know used to antique our Weejuns by alternating black with oxblood polish.  Take that, EG, G&G, et al.

Nice! I will remember to try that someday.


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#47 2008-04-04 13:55:29

Tony Ventresca
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Outdoor hunting boots from BASS (1960).

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/222/october17196011qt9.th.jpg


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"Once upon a time, life was not better. It was just different." William Norwich
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#48 2008-05-02 17:02:31

Tony Ventresca
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

BASS, 1958.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/898/copyof195854fe0.th.jpghttp://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4339/copyof195899vv2.th.jpghttp://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2673/copyof195816fc3.th.jpg

Sperry canvas topsiders, 1958. Look closely at the drawing of the shoe. Remember this is 1958. That shoe didn't change for what? 35+ years?

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1120/copyof1958155pa4.th.jpg


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"Once upon a time, life was not better. It was just different." William Norwich
"This is one of the testimonial pictures that Satan uses in his brochures." Anonymous

 

#49 2008-05-07 10:43:16

Tony Ventresca
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Re: A Classic American Shoo

Bass Weejun, 1958.

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6989/1958246ii9.th.jpg

Unknown brand, 1958. I am not certain what these are, obviously some 'no-name' brand being flogged on the back pages of the magazine.

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5627/1958249wj8.th.jpg


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"Once upon a time, life was not better. It was just different." William Norwich
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#50 2008-05-07 11:09:58

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Re: A Classic American Shoo

The American shoo-porn is blowing my mind. Awesome stuff gentlemen. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Aportneyface-2.gif

Old Horace, your topic is a total delight. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Aportneyface-2.gifhttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Aportneyface-2.gifhttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Marc_au/Ron1/Aportneyface-2.gif


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