In a very odd way, yes, I think it has to.  Put it this way: the Hip becomes internalised. 

I was much taken with Gibson Gardens' posting on the nature of 'cool', and thought then how 'cool' becomes internalised.  That's why it's interesting when, for instance, Chris and John have a coffee together, or John and Graham Marsh get their heads together.  Then the 'internalisation' can make itself known.  This is strictly underground stuff.  We can be kind to the curious, but won't go out of our way to enlighten the indifferent.  It's to do with what I term 'layering' - a complex and ongoing process related to what mods called 'topping up'.

Well, I hope so. 

All the guys on here will do it instinctively.

What I'm trying to do here is, oddly, 'de-layer', by attempting to strip away certain images: the guys leaving the Fiat factory on their scooters; Peck squiring Hepburn around Rome; the frontages of certain Soho buildings; Georgie Fame at the 'Mingo...  because these are 'elements' of Ivy...  then 'layer' anew with all the alternative images Staceyboy and I spent months discussing but subtracting, more or less, 'Take Ivy' as having oversold itself.  There's a projection back into the Truman-Eisenhower period - of course and of necessity.  Nothing novel about any of this - it's been done before - but the 're-Americanisation' of UK Ivy remains an ongoing aim...  Cheever good, Cowley better...