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#1 2006-10-24 09:29:45
- dburke007
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J M Weston
I grew up in Paris and in France believe that J M Weston Shoes were the ultimate.
When I started to purchase them several years ago in NY I started with the Loafers then the Derby models
I am looking at the Hunt Derby 677 model which is triple welted soles.
My question is:
What is the meaning of Norvegian welted shoes?
and was I being brained washed in believing that JM Weston are the greatest shoes and not considering other brands?
Thank You
David
#2 2006-10-24 11:14:54
- Miles Away
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Re: J M Weston
I'm a little hazy on this one.
I'm guessing that JM Weston made 'Weston' or 'Westons' loafers beloved of Les Minets in the early '60s in Paris ('Parlez Vous Cool' thread - Again!)
I think they had a reputation a little like Royal's brogues did in England. They were 'the best' for a certain group. These things are all relative anyway.
Can I ask in what context you heard of JM Weston as being the best? Was it peer group when you were growing up? When would that have been?
I regard Bass Weejuns as being the best. I do know that there are better shoes, but Weejuns were in some way the ultimate when I was younger so that mind-set has to an extent stayed with me.
'The best 'is an interesting concept... I think a basic blue Brooks BD is also 'The Best'. I know that it's factory made RTW, but to me it's iconic...
... As I say, an interesting concept.
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#3 2006-10-24 13:28:22
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Re: J M Weston
I grew up in a Boarding School in France 1964 to 1976. This school was influenced by the British School system and what you wear was very important. We always had to wear the Boarding School Uniforms "Dark Blue Blazor and Gray flannel trousers" and what differentiated students were the shoes.
Wearing the JM Westons were always considered as being high fashion.
You are correct to say that the term "Best" is only subjective and not based on any other criterias other than Peer Pressure in this situation
David
#4 2006-10-24 14:11:14
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Re: J M Weston
Thanks for that - It does put it all into context.
Good to know that Westons were still well regarded for so long.
I've also seen them credited as being made by 'Weston House' - Does that name ring true?
I've only ever seen a pair in an old copy of French Elle (of all things) - Black Beefroll loafers & they looked THE BUSINESS.
Very nice loafers.
Sure there are other brands... but just like Weejuns in England, Westons would have been the RIGHT shoes for you when you were discovering clothes.
I think that makes them 'The Best' for you. Wish I had a pair in my wardrobe.
Can't help on the Norwegian welted front. Others will know more than me.
Miles.
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#5 2006-10-24 14:59:25
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Re: J M Weston
Last edited by Will (2006-10-24 15:00:13)
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#6 2006-10-24 19:47:11
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Re: J M Weston
Last edited by ernest_is_back (2006-10-24 19:52:32)
Brown is for farmer. Green is for hunters. No loafer with a suit. No BD shirt with a tie.
#7 2006-10-24 19:50:35
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Brown is for farmer. Green is for hunters. No loafer with a suit. No BD shirt with a tie.
#9 2006-10-25 00:34:54
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Re: J M Weston
Norwegian welt denotes a special kind of shoe construction in which the uppers are sewn directly onto the soles without a separate welt (strip of leather that connects the uppers to the soles). The leather of the uppers is bent outwards around the lower perimeter. The resulting horizontal lip (built-in welt) substitutes the traditional (separate) welt.
E.g.
http://www.johnlobbltd.co.uk/catalogue/fullsize_images/Website_shoes_boots/Website_boots/Stepinboots/stepinthumb.htm
http://www.johnlobbltd.co.uk/history/bwpages/15.htm
#11 2006-10-25 10:31:05
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Re: J M Weston
Brown is for farmer. Green is for hunters. No loafer with a suit. No BD shirt with a tie.
#13 2006-10-26 05:16:21
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Re: J M Weston
Last edited by Miles Away (2006-10-26 05:18:23)
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#14 2006-10-26 05:18:34
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I remember seeing Weston's line at the Galleries Laf. in Paris and thinking them nice looking but not to my taste. I was surprised by the fuss elswhere.
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#15 2006-10-26 12:44:31
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Re: J M Weston
Brown is for farmer. Green is for hunters. No loafer with a suit. No BD shirt with a tie.
#16 2006-10-26 15:06:59
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Re: J M Weston
Hmmmm?
Point Of View = 'POV'.
" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.
#17 2006-10-29 18:37:24
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Re: J M Weston
The shoes in their Madison Ave., NYC, store window are a collective eyesore.
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