Good film & means so much to so many...
I got this from one of those U.S. Neo-Preppy sites.
It's by some teenage girl called 'Muffin' or 'Botty' (or Somesuch):
"I wonder if a subtle message of the film is that the
easiest (and worst?) thing to be is a Rick Von
Slonecker--someone who, whatever their class or
station in life, dares to mock or ridicule the
seriousness with which a minority strive to safeguard
certain time-honored traditions that have importance
if only because they define a certain community. Nick
Smith disappears eventually, but not before revealing
Von Slonecker as a "scoundrel" and converting a
formerly leftist-leaning leveler named Tom.
Interesting. The self-consciousness and even noble
fear that mark the striving of the very bourgeois Nick
Smith are revealed to be rather heroic, while The
ennui-drenched aristocratic tone of Von Slonecker is
portrayed as rude, and, further, just plain spiteful."
OK - So she's got the hots for Nick Smith. Fair enough.
So many takes on this film:
Tom's politics were all a pose - He was soon seduced out of them.
Nick plays the snob game & looses (like all snobs do). He gets a bloody nose for inventing 'composits' of people.
Von Slonecker is what he is. A shit to be sure, but if he is European nobility then that rings true.
Can't say I admire a single one of them.
But I admire the film.
I like satire.
Miles.
Edit: I've found a lot more by this little Miss too. I'll post from time to time on her musings - She does make an interesting teenage POV on 'Trad' & Ivy etc.
No ridicule here - I'll protect her name & website. She just has her own slant on everything which IS interesting.
Last edited by Miles Away (2006-10-25 05:40:05)
This is too funny & I just had to share it -
"A person who learned to appreciate American
Traditional clothing in a rather (culturally,
aesthetically) "conservative" community and also at
equally "conservative" schools among Southern
gentlemen will not fully understand the affiliations
entertained by someone who borrowed it from the covers
of jazz album covers...or, in the case of one, Andover
Shop windows and old New Yorkers."
This HAS to be more than a coincidence surely?
FNB is being read by so many!!
Hey 'Muffin' - Come and post here?
I'd love an insight into what is really going on in America today.
With respect.
What a remarkable young lass this Muffin is.
Please no one tell her that Metropolitan was fictional. I've read that it is dangerous to bring the deluded back to reality so quickly. She seems to have placed herself into the plot line and is unable to distinguish truth from fiction.
Perhaps your posts could serve as some kind of therapy for young Muffin.
I think Nick's pretty great. Charlie, too. Likewise in "Barcelona"
Yeah. Nice film.
Watch it. Don't live it.
It's only a movie...
Have any of you guys read Stillman's novelization of his movie "The Last Days of Disco"?
It's a great read--I think he's one of the best at dialogue around.
Lots of interesting stuff on the publishing biz c. 1980. Frustratingly little about clothes, though.
Last edited by Horace (2006-10-28 06:56:31)
I know what you mean...
I've seen the backtrack posts and I'm not happy about them for his sake.
He looses dignity with each new one.
Better, by far, to say it was all a lampoon or just to drop the persona & bounce back with a new one.
It's starting to look pathological now... Clinging to the myth of Trad when everybody else has moved on.
It must all mean a lot to him.
Fair enough.
I also think he is much younger than he has lead us all to believe -
The thing to do now is to help the guy get out of the corner he's talked himself into.
Pax.
Miles.
I just ran into Chris Eigeman (who I once acted with) shopping at J. Press.
He revealed that he had no idea what J. Press was when it was mentioned in the film.
We both agreed that Whit Stillman would like to be the George Plimpton of film making!
Chris also told me of the many auteur-like techniques used in making the film, especially the Plaza scenes (which were NOT authorized by the hotel).
He was great fun to speak with; I'm so glad that the movie is finally out on DVD.
Last edited by steedappeal (2006-11-06 18:03:18)
A quick search of imdb.com shows that Eigeman plays a prep school english teacher in a recently released movie called "The Treatment". Seems to have good reviews. Also stars Ian Holm and some young hottie that I don't know but am looking forward to seeing. Not yet on DVD.
According to imdb, Eigeman is also in post-production on a flick he wrote, directed and acted in. Also starring same young hottie.
Is that movie available on any other labels than Criterion? (Which is really good at releasing obscure films and pricing them astronomically...)