BTW, any ideas when JS started selling the Playboy style for the first time? Back in the day, during the Boom Years in the old Ivy Shop, or later in the 80s at JS?

I keep wondering about these things... When did he get the Paraboots, too?

I think I read somewhere that there were only 3 or 4 basic styles of shoes in the Ivy Shop in the 60s... Dunno where it was, but I think the shoes that were mentioned were Longwings, Plain Toe Bluchers, Penny Loafers and the mysterious American Split-Toe Gibsons (probably Florsheims?)... Somewhere else, though, I've read that there was a wide variety of loafers...

Maybe that is a question for Gibson Gardens and the Politburo...

Thank you very much!

Impressed!

If we can ask sensible questions, would Mr. Simons mind answering from time to time?

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Thanx for the welcome 6, I will post the pics as soon as I figure how to upload from my hard drive. the original company that made British Walkers really called "Britisher's" was a company in Greece called Palladdio they gave up in the 80s as they started making the toe pointed like a Sanders I assume givin it a dressy look opposed to the casual square toe, but they succeeded in killin the shoe. Then in 1996 rapper Fat Joe and Jew Man a world famous Mom& Pop store owner in the South Bronx got hold of the name and again had them manufactured in Greece but not by Palladdios. The run they had lasted about 3 years with many people still not aware of the resurgence.In 2005 Samsung America managed to get the rights to the name Original Britisher's and Broke every BW lovers heart with that shoe you guys saw, which caused them to lose lots of money. I believe the guy in charge opted to save rather pocket,money by not using leather like on the original shoes,the store on 36th & 8th in Manhattan Mikes shoe warehouse same store with the pics of the GBX RJ and the Sanders Playboys on the table owner gave the Samsung rep a deadstock 80s British Walker as a model and he came up with that horrendous shoe with the Brown leather trim on em all, we've been fighting to get them to mske the correct shoe for the last year and the guy promised us a shoe by december but we're still waiting. Well anyway just thought I'd shed a little history on the BWs def not trying to turn this into a British Walker forum guys. Well 6, I'll get right on this thing and post the pics and linx,thanx for puttin up with me as you can see from the BW forum we turned that into an 80s clothing forum with a primary emphasis on Britisher's. Later 6

Sanders website is updated. No photos but looks like you can actually buy the playboys and dirty bucks now.

http://www.sanders-uk.com/categories/Casual-11.php


Thank god for that.

Pointer Products still have not managed to deliver me a pair of boots since ordering THREE weeks ago. Constant promises of delivery, I wait at home, nothing arrives 'let me look into it' type responses, with no actual answers. On Monday they promised them by Thursday. Nothing. It's irrelevant that they are cheaper on Pointer site if they don't actually stock them and don't actually deliver. (of course they took money from card weeks ago).

Perhaps the worst customer service I've had in years online. A true British Tradition, that.

actually fancy suits are very expensive but they are the different and unique designs thats why they are expensive

I hear you Weej, Thats how I feel about the Britishers(British Walkers) Samsung America holds the rights my friend with the Sanders and the Davanzatis gave them a couple shoes so they could make the correct shoe they supposedly made a few samples back in September but as of today nuthin. This guy knows he has a guy, the same guy's store with the table full of Playboys, that can sell 1000 pair a week for a few weeks but he just wont make the shoe. These guys gotta know there is a large market for these vintage items and with the proper promotion which would be simply gettin the word out, they could make a grip. The Sanders people do deserve credit for sticking around citi shoes in NY called  sells them regularly along with Mikes shoe Plaza 212-921-8218. My Sand colored RJs came yesterday I paid the guy Friday night he shipped em off Saturday Morning and I got em Monday def 5* service, the color is a little closer to Tan than Beige but they look real nice put em on with my tan suede front Cardigan(80s of course) today gotta lotta comps on the unique color.Well Weej keep us up on the status of the Clubmans or Huttons, by the way Weej which ones would you & 66 prefer to see back? Later Dude

I just wanted to know if anybody knows who made the original split-toe Playboy and does the RJ version look anything like it?

Tomis general rule of thumb is 1/2 size down but these look wide fit. I'm normally 9.5 UK so bought 10. For a 9 I'd go for 9.5 in them.