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#1 2010-05-04 04:47:20

Reckless Reggie
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'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

Please have a look at this 'review' of a Henry Herbert suit and the comments that Crompton has deigned to allow and say whether, in all the circumstances, you feel that it is a stylish review:

http://permanentstyle.blogspot.com/2010/04/tailor-report-henry-herbert.html

RR.


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#2 2010-05-04 05:23:09

Kingstonian
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

I am not sure a review needs to be stylish - honest and informative will suffice.

The review seems to meet that requirement. He praises the good points but does not omit the problem areas.

I prefer that to the fulsome praise for freebies approach that you get on other sites.

 

#3 2010-05-04 08:44:36

Jake
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

Seems like a very fair review to me. What exactly is your objection to it? Would it be more 'stylish' to encourage readers to buy a service that Simon deep down feels is lacking?


"Good breeding consists in concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person." _ Mark Twain

 

#4 2010-05-04 09:41:39

Reckless Reggie
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

The subject of the review feels that it is factually inaccurate. Attempts to comment on the review are largely rejected. Some of the things that Compston criticises he should (and could) easily have clarified at the outset. The tailor also feels that it has damaged his business. He is a young chap starting out and maybe finding his way. The premise of the review is that Compston would not have paid for a suit by this tailor so the whole exercise seems pointless unless Compston deliberately set the tailor up for a fall. Compston clearly enjoyed cutting his amateur and fairly novice journalist's teeth on someone who is unlikely to be able to strike back and then, by implication, boasting about his freedom to mouth off with impunity. There is something about it all that is deeply distasteful to me. Quite shocking really. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say it's a s**t's trick and from someone who sets himself up as a style Guru. Mind you, from references to 'Simon' above, I take it that he is popular. Maybe that's just typical of the modern age!
RR

Last edited by Reckless Reggie (2010-05-04 09:43:34)


I'm Reckless Reggie of the Regent Palace,
I'm in love with every gal;
I flirt with Maudie and I flirt with Alice,
I'm a real life Regent's pal.

 

#5 2010-05-04 09:47:25

Kingstonian
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#6 2010-05-04 09:49:16

Reckless Reggie
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

I'll tell him. It is his fight really.
RR


I'm Reckless Reggie of the Regent Palace,
I'm in love with every gal;
I flirt with Maudie and I flirt with Alice,
I'm a real life Regent's pal.

 

#7 2010-05-04 10:23:02

Jake
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

Last edited by Jake (2010-05-04 10:23:50)


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#8 2010-05-04 10:30:37

Reckless Reggie
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

I do not know either Compston or the tailor and have no reason to like or dislike either. As I say, it is the tailor's fight if he wants it. The review does seem to be at odds with other reviews on the tailor's own site. I have said all thta I have to say and should get with something more productive for me without being challenged over motivation for defending someone who has been apparently hard-done-by!
RR


I'm Reckless Reggie of the Regent Palace,
I'm in love with every gal;
I flirt with Maudie and I flirt with Alice,
I'm a real life Regent's pal.

 

#9 2010-05-04 10:37:00

g-
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

Interesting dilemma.  I read that blog post shortly after it was posted.  I thought the tailor would be quite upset.  I was suprised as it is somewhat out of character with the rest of the blog posts.  Generally, it seems fair, as it is one of opinion and not opinion stated as fact.  There were some ancillary comments which seemed unnecessary: "At the second fitting the seat seemed a little better, but still tight. The waistcoat looked the same. And I swear the jacket had been shortened from the bottom, though Charlie said this was not the case. I may have been mistaken."

Personally, I don't swear to things if I am concerned I might easily be corrected.  Perhaps it is down to writing style, but that turn of phrase is unfortunate.  It gives the reader the perspective the tailor may be less than skilled but also, and clearly worse, less than honest.   The tailor is in a difficult spot because if he comes and defends himself he will risk appearing beligerent and defensive, as I believe many people view the tailor who frequents SF and AAAC.  We shall probably never know the real story. 

I for one like the look of the waistcoat, and the lapel stiching worked for me.  Admittedly, that may be a sign of my ignorance.

Last edited by g- (2010-05-04 10:42:37)

 

#10 2010-05-04 10:44:20

Reckless Reggie
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

Well g- I think that you have hit the nail on the head. It is the turns of phrase that suggest (unproven) dishonesty and cheap-jacking that strike a jarring note and certainly one that is especially dissonant on such a site. It lacks generosity and I, for one, will not revisit the blog. Compston has blocked my comments - which are reasoned criticism of him - not asking about the process at the outset etc. So he seems a self-satisfied and defensive sort of chap.
RR


I'm Reckless Reggie of the Regent Palace,
I'm in love with every gal;
I flirt with Maudie and I flirt with Alice,
I'm a real life Regent's pal.

 

#11 2010-05-04 10:50:30

Jake
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"Good breeding consists in concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person." _ Mark Twain

 

#12 2010-05-04 12:25:41

Reckless Reggie
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

It's the fact that he has so easily and so heavily implied (without actually being sure) that the tailor has skimped and cut corners and then lied and misled that I find objectionable. It isn't the fact that he doesn't like the suit. It isn't the fact that he says so. It's a nasty piece of work.
RR.


I'm Reckless Reggie of the Regent Palace,
I'm in love with every gal;
I flirt with Maudie and I flirt with Alice,
I'm a real life Regent's pal.

 

#13 2010-05-04 13:00:55

Grossgrain Silk
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

If you don't know the tailor, how do you know he is concerned and hasn't been allowed to post on the blog?

I read the post and the suit looked a mess. Particularly, the button looked lower than the buttonhole on the jacket and the waistcoat buttons didn't seem to line up straight.

It's Crompton's blog and he can express himself how he wants. I hold no brief for him and, when he has posted about stuff where I have personal knowledge of the people involved - as he has once or twice - I think he's got it wrong. But he makes his position clear and this was a freebie in exchange for a review. There is no entitlement to a good review and he wants his readers to trust him.

 

#14 2010-05-04 13:11:41

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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/lifestyle/article-23763311-the-london-businesses-being-run-from-a-scooter.do

I think he advertises in Private Eye.

 

#15 2010-05-04 13:50:53

Reckless Reggie
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

I don't know the tailor but I refuse to be cross-questioned on my source of information! I didn't say that the tailor had not been granted a right of reply. I said that my comments had been blocked. The suit may or may not be a mess. That is not the point. Crompton seems to have chosen the most expensive cloth on offer and accepted the suit and he seems to want to wear it. As I say, it is not the negativity of the review in relation to the quality of the workmanship (which, frankly, is not really discernible from the picture, especially since the vest is not properly buttoned-up), it is the imputation of dishonesty without any real evidence, beyond Crompton's eye, which is not that of a tailor. But, hey, this is not my fight and it's over to Charlie! Mind you, I would just add that the bespoke process entails discussion and instructions to get it right. You don't walk away with something that isn't right; an option here might have been to have said: "I can't give this suit a good review. The review that I might produce could be damaging. Maybe, keep the suit for window-dressing and I'll leave the review."
RR

Last edited by Reckless Reggie (2010-05-04 14:13:05)


I'm Reckless Reggie of the Regent Palace,
I'm in love with every gal;
I flirt with Maudie and I flirt with Alice,
I'm a real life Regent's pal.

 

#16 2010-05-04 15:36:10

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#17 2010-05-04 15:58:48

Reckless Reggie
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

Grossgrain silk - Maybe the point about the bespoke process is the better point. You state your requirements and, if you're new to the tailor (especially one with an ususual background), even down to the handwork expected, wadding, padding (or not), vents, pockets, shaping and so forth and you don't take the garment until it is right. Moreover, you always examine an example of their recent work to see what you think of it. Maybe, the blog says as much about the blogger's lack of experience as a bespeaker as anything. Possibly, he didn't press for everything to be corrected because the suit was a 'freebie' but that is not a good policy as both tailor and customer end up dissatisfied.
RR

Last edited by Reckless Reggie (2010-05-04 16:18:05)


I'm Reckless Reggie of the Regent Palace,
I'm in love with every gal;
I flirt with Maudie and I flirt with Alice,
I'm a real life Regent's pal.

 

#18 2010-05-04 16:22:52

Jake
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"Good breeding consists in concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person." _ Mark Twain

 

#19 2010-05-05 09:24:26

Reckless Reggie
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Re: 'Permanent Style' Blog suit review

Compston has now added some additional comments of his own to his review. My attempted first comment (which was not vulgar but reasoned) might not have been blocked as "I couldn't swear" that he had just over-looked it. It will be interesting to see whether a second attempt at reasoned comment gets anywhere.
RR


I'm Reckless Reggie of the Regent Palace,
I'm in love with every gal;
I flirt with Maudie and I flirt with Alice,
I'm a real life Regent's pal.

 

#20 2010-05-05 09:59:19

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