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#1 2010-05-12 08:16:56

The_Shooman
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Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

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#2 2010-05-12 17:07:58

meister
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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

There is no doubt that Goodyear welted is better. All this guff by Italian shoemakers that Blake/Blake Rapid is just as good is rubbish. The simple nature of the way the shoe is constructed tells it all. For wear and comfort Goodyear cannot be beaten.

 

#3 2010-05-13 04:46:28

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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

For wear and tear
Opt for Goodyear.


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#4 2010-05-13 12:52:10

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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

That's what I thought, a no brainer really. Goodyear.


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#5 2010-05-13 13:54:18

ckav
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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

I have a old pair of Hiking boots, the 4 lb leather monsters with obligatory red laces and lugs worthy of a Tiger tank. They have Norwegian welts. I've resoled them 5 times and still get lectures on the trails from people on the 5th pair of glued, non rebuildable lightwieghts. 'You know, one pound on your foot = 5 on your back?' This from Ihikers with 50 lb rucksacks for a dayhike.
Goodyear is just as good.

 

#6 2010-05-13 16:10:02

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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction


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#7 2010-05-13 17:44:51

Grossgrain Silk
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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

Do I like the look? Horses for courses. My tastes tend towards a nice slim welt rather than no welt but Blake can look good.

Is it comfortable? Good Blake beats the hell out of poor Goodyear. Good Goodyear is better than Blake. But this is subordinate to:

Does it fit? Sargents fit me well. G & G Mitchell last fits me like hand made. Bally Blake ditto. Can't make Church's like me no matter how hard I try.

Is it well made? I like craftsmanship and I expect my shoes to last, in return for which I lavish care on them (well, polish them regularly and put trees in). Overpriced equals dislike in my book, because I end up resenting a perfectly decent shoe for which I have paid more than it is worth. So this question is contextualised by price. But craft is not about appearance for appearance's sake. Nothing is sadder than endless debates about the medallion on the toe cap. Confucius he say: man who stares at toe cap get knocked down by virtually anybody and serve him fucking right.

 

#8 2010-05-13 19:57:12

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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

Blake rapid is not a poor construction, in fact from the people I’ve spoken to, Blake rapid is far better than gemmed Goodyear welted construction. Blake rapid actually sews the insole to the outer sole, where as gemmed Goodyear gules the insole to the welt strip. Hand welted however, that is stitching the insole (with a channel) to the welt strip is much better. Machine stitching the welt to the outer sole is neither here nor there in my opinion. People may disagree but the Goodyear machine got its reputation from this application, and machine stitching the welt to the outer sole is efficient and (although I don’t actually know), i would assume it can put more tension on the thread than hand stitching.
Goodyear gemmed < Blake Rapid < Fully Hand Welted

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#9 2010-05-13 21:04:23

The_Shooman
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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

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#10 2010-05-14 12:56:17

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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

Isn't this a country issue, Italians dig Blake construction whereas the rest of the civilized shoe making world will go for the rugged, reliability of Goodyear?


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#11 2010-05-16 18:26:19

g-
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Re: Blake-rapid v's goodyear welted construction

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