my man mookey:would like to see those pictures of the McCreedy&Schreiber PBs just see if they're the same ones i bought back in 97. I know that we are giong get that uploading down pack and when we do send them on to route 66 and the rest of the kool cats.

^ Yip, spotted those as well. They're Sanders right? Because of the soles I guess we could call them Playboys.

Worn with the right stuff they could look pretty cool. I'm sure there were different versions of the PB style  back in the day the same as there were lace up weejuns, etc.

I think i found the solution to the heel peeling while you're driving.a seat cushion i used as a floor mat work very well.tried them out on the new style of sanders playboys i bought at mikes last week. and it worked no peeling at all.

Welcome on board, Matthew -

Lots of new guys just now & I couldn't be happier. Most Email or PM & have yet to post on the forum, so those who make the leap to join in the wider discussions on here always get my vote.

If we all share what we know, we'll all know more.

Best,

Big Nose.

Some memories.

In the late 70's and early 80's we bought black boots from an old style family shoe shop with yellow cellophane in the windows. I can't really remember the brand but I'd guess they were either Eaton’s or maybe George Cox. The didn't have the leather piping above the crepe and split fairly easily.

The low cut version came along a little later and we'd pick them up from a shoe shop in Brighton (on Bond Street). Again these were very like the pics on here of the Eaton clubman. Alongside the playboys (a term we never used at the time)  we’d dig the blue canvas numbers that we called "comforts" - six week summer jobs - and black leather shoes with a seam round the toe and horrid synthetic soles that were called "town shoes". Both from Eastern Europe.

Then it was J Simons in London and various incarnations including a low cut brogue version in chocolate brown (which I foolishly binned on my last house move). Most of these tended to get into disrepair quite quickly with the crepe coming away from the sides and two other curious phenomena. Firstly if you didn’t wear them for a while – i.e. when it was raining – the crepe would go hard and become brittle. Then, after maybe a year, the whole shoe would let out an almost audible sigh and subside into a squashed Cornish pasty shape. That’s when it was time to bite the bullet and buy a replacement pair, sometimes from places like Robot – who I think stocked a George Cox versions.

Latterly, John Simons started stocking his own brand version, which were much better, having the piping round the top of the crepe which prevented (to some extent) the gaping effect. Brown tan boots (which I died black quite successfully) and Black suede low and high cut versions. My last pairs of each of these are still going strong after maybe five years but are just starting to get the “last Ginsters in the Petrol station” look to them.

Just before he closed, John stocked the Sanders version but I never got the size I needed and they didn’t have the black leather low cuts that I have treasured since seeing a pair on a Rebel from Hastings in the late 70’s who claimed to have stolen them from an Italian tourist who’d left them behind while swimming off Eastbourne sea front. Now, thanks to all of you, I am sitting and waiting for the roar of the Post Office van.

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fred; he has them in black and burgundy. the burgundy ones are beautiful fred they were turning heads you would love them,those two colors are in leather and get the speed shine with them 2.00.  and yes fred i took the same size in both of them that is  in the rounded toe and the streamline toe. fred call him 212 921 8218 and fred get the details.if they have your size get them,because you never know if you would ever see these good looking playboys again.

my man fred; that's kool bro;

I did receive them - I have to admit I am pretty disappointed.  I expected more given the price I paid but they are really $40 shoes not $130 ones as you said.......oh well...