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#26 2010-07-28 02:53:40

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Re: The Interface: Style Over Substance

 

#27 2010-07-28 03:03:19

Alex Roest
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Re: The Interface: Style Over Substance

In an attempt to clarify the matter somewhat I'd like to add the experimenting of the Stylist stays within certain limits, whereas the Dandy's experimenting could be described as being a little over the top.

 

#28 2010-07-28 08:00:59

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: The Interface: Style Over Substance

'Dandy' is a term I associate only with schlock: that gruesome Beckham look, or a worse media/marketing invention than 'prep'.  I once read in some crappy styling book that if someone calls you a 'Dandy' it's time to empty your wardrobe and begin all over again.  I tended - and tend - to think of Tom Wolfe (who reminds me of Truman Capote) and would rather not have to think of him at all.  My style, in fact, is avowedly 'anti-Dandy': the plain colours, the lack of show: something Patrick Nahman taught me.  My interpretation of it: dress down, dress expensively (whenever practically possible), allow nothing to give an impression of 'look at me'.  Anti-mod, in fact, in almost all senses, having pushed it to another level.  Yet more paradox?

 

#29 2022-07-01 04:31:01

AFS
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Re: The Interface: Style Over Substance

'Superiority'...  ugh...  I would never say or claim anything so obviously crass now... 
Other aspects of this thread remain relevant, yet I cannot now remember where that 'Deep Meaning/Double Meaning' quote originated.  I think it must have been a 60s Mod expression.  I may be wrong. 
The Blue Note reference still holds.  I'm listening to Blue Note right now: Monk: wearing Hunt Club Madras and USA-import Levis. 
I still remember much of what Paddy taught me.

 

#30 2022-07-01 06:27:13

Tworussellstreet
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Re: The Interface: Style Over Substance

This. of course, is the sort of stuff that sent Dear Old Chens into a right old tizz isn't it? And didn't Jimbo just swallow the whole Kevin Rowland/Jason Jules nonsense with embarrassing relish? Desperate to belong. Poor chap, and he was so clever and should have been able to channel it all into something stable and positive. Getting older definitely takes the edge off of one's theorising. I think it's healthy to pontificate about clothes, to speculate, and find new themes and ideas, but the notion of an elite, a special group who know more, well I laugh at all that now. I had it as a legacy of over-immersion  in 'mod-think' in  my youth. But have you seen the state of the old mods now?! Quelle horreur ! Navy cashmere and penny loafers though - yum! that's enough to fill my brain my pleasure.

 

#31 2022-07-01 06:42:30

AFS
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Re: The Interface: Style Over Substance

Are the old Mods the ones who do the Farage act with Weller?  'Pose wiv me so me Mum can go 'ooh,,,  did you ask for 'is autograph?'...  Of course these are not the old old Mods, are they?  (Or are they?  I sincerely hope not).  The original 'Modernists' - who are alleged to have haunted certain dark basements in Soho - must now be shuffling slowly off this mortal coil.  Lady I once met who'd grooved at The Twisted Wheel was no spring chicken, believe me.  Circa 1967 was that going?  So, were the originals the post-bebop generation, more likely to dig Roland Kirk than Booker T? 
Navy cashmere and penny loafers - still my look from time to time.

 

#32 2022-07-01 06:46:08

AFS
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Re: The Interface: Style Over Substance

Wow, Ripper really did talk some crap...

 

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