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#1 2010-08-03 15:29:24

Rip Rig & Panic
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Saul Bass

Be great if we could get members to present something on Bass.  Maybe a collaboration between Beatnik's Ghost and Gibson Gardens?  Perhaps, even more than Robert Brownjohn, he has his devotees.

 

#2 2010-08-03 15:37:50

Beatnik's ghost
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Re: Saul Bass

Where would Hitchcock's movies be without his fantastic titles and posters?. Some censors had more problems with them than the actual film. He did them for Goodfellas too don't forget.
Plus, his logo designs, that still are in use today and his typography. Also he had a fantastic moustache.
Look him up and enjoy his art.
I hope old Gibbo is a fan too...

 

#3 2010-08-03 23:47:14

heikki k
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Re: Saul Bass

 

#4 2010-08-04 03:26:52

Tomiskinky
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Re: Saul Bass

Being a graphic designer, Saul Bass, Robert Brownjohn et al have all been a big influence on me.
In my early design education, i was also very influenced by McKnight Kauffer, Edward Johnston and Ken Garland , also a big fan of the work of printers like Alan Kitching, we actually do our own letterpress here in our studio, as well as screen printing, a great break away from the client headaches.

Too many amazing designers, but you can add to the list, Josef Muller Brockmann, Otl Aicher, Wim Crouwel, Karl Gerstner, László Moholy-Nagy, Emil Ruder the list goes on.....

 

#5 2010-08-04 03:33:04

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Saul Bass

big Saul Bass fan, too! Tomiskinky, you know some stuff, I've never heard of, and even though this is a clothes forum, I think I'm not alone when I say that I'd be delighted if you wrote a little bit more on at least some of these designers... I know, we could all look them up and google a little bit, but I'm hoping you can give us a little bit about why you like their style... some of the personal stuff.... Thanks!


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#6 2010-08-04 03:37:44

macabee
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Re: Saul Bass

I will always remember the opening title sequence of 'North  by North West" which is still my all time favourite film, when I see the opening sequence to the TV series of Madmen. To me Saul Bass was a genius.


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#7 2010-08-04 04:50:37

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: Saul Bass

Thank you, macabee.  I think this might turn out to be a good thread.  I'm sure GG is keen.

 

#8 2010-08-04 06:10:02

Astridsdad
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Re: Saul Bass

Have the Anatomy of a Murder poster in my hall!


Bustin' makes me feel good

 

#9 2010-08-04 06:19:10

heikki k
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Re: Saul Bass

 

#10 2010-08-04 06:41:43

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: Saul Bass

We'll try.  I think perhaps Gibson Gardens is on holiday somewhere.  He likes the Bass/Hitchcock connection, too.

 

#11 2010-08-04 06:45:50

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Re: Saul Bass

Just been looking on Amazon.  Books on Bass seem to be hard to come by at the moment.

 

#12 2010-08-04 06:53:33

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Re: Saul Bass

 

#13 2010-08-04 10:07:37

Tomiskinky
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Re: Saul Bass

few basic bits that I can write without having to do lots of research. Heikki, like you Neville Brody, Peter Saville, Malcolm Garrett and all that late 70s designers were also a major influence, all the record sleeves I copied and layouts I stole. Thanks for the max miedinger reminder.

Otl Aicher: the end of the 60s he was given responsibility for developing all aspects of the visual design of the 1972 Munich Olympic games.
Aicher’s design office also developed corporate identities for Lufthansa, Braun and ERCO (among many). Designed the Rotis font in late 80s.

Wim Crouwel Dutch graphic designer and educator. In 1963 was one of five founding partners of Total Design, Amsterdam, a multi-disciplinary design practice in the Netherlands. 1964–84 responsible for poster and catalogue design for the Stedelijk Museum, Amsterdam. Famous also for his type design, Neu Alphabet.

Josef Müller-Brockmann: Swiss graphic designer and teacher. Studied architecture, design and history of art in Zurich. In 1930s opened a Zurich studio specialising in graphics, exhibition design and photography. 1950s produced concert posters for the Tonhalle in Zurich. In 1966 he was appointed European design consultant to IBM. Famous for the current wave of modernist style graphic work you see by the likes of MB Studio, SEA etc.

Emil Ruder: Swiss typographer, graphic designer and teacher. His seminal book, Typography, A Manual of Design, was first published in 1967, containing much of his own work and that of his students. In the book, Ruder stressed the need for the designer to understand the nature and value of his materials, and the need to assess one value against another in terms of proportion and contrast, to reach a final result through logical thought and a solid knowledge base. (copied some of that)!

This is a link to the Ken Garland site, site is a bit clumsy as the links are not obvious. http://www.kengarland.co.uk/

Last edited by Tomiskinky (2010-08-04 10:09:14)

 

#14 2010-08-04 13:52:09

Beatnik's ghost
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Re: Saul Bass

What about Eric Gill, Tomiskinky? Famous typographer, kiddy fiddler and dog botherer?
Another fantastic thread from Mister Panic, I think you will agree...

 

#15 2010-08-04 14:11:05

heikki k
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Re: Saul Bass

 

#16 2010-08-04 14:13:42

heikki k
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Re: Saul Bass

we've strayed quite far from the laid back spirit of saul bass designs though! wink

 

#17 2010-08-04 17:39:38

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Re: Saul Bass

It is Saul Bass's misfortune that certain elements of his work have become easy to pastiche for lesser designers who came after him.

Underneath the stylistic trappings and triggers that we think of when the name Saul Bass is mentioned we musn't forget that he was instrumental in changing the entire way in which the front-end of films were cut and sold, from the titles to the poster campaigns. Extended and thematic title sequences were not his idea alone but his work defines the entire enterprise in a golden phase.

His work on Spartacus remains astoundingly beautiful. The classiest thing about that particular cheese-fest and maybe the only portion of the film which bespeaks the potential nobility and gravitas of the subject matter

 

#18 2010-08-04 23:01:36

Big Mark
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Re: Saul Bass

Really interesting thread R R  and P

I went to the Design Museum 6 ish years ago to see an E Type exhibition, and the Bass one happened to be on at the same time. It was one of those 'chance' things, but I spent the time, and really enjoyed it (to be honest, at the time it was really 'pearls before swine').

Found it all very interesting, from 'Golden Arm' through the opening sequences to films like 'Vertigo', but also the rationale behind the space age-ish image implied by the United Air re-brand.

Thanks, Tomiskinky, for expanding on this great topic

Mark


"I think I had it in the back of my mind that I wanted to sound like a dry martini."  Paul Desmond

 

#19 2010-08-04 23:37:34

heikki k
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Re: Saul Bass

 

#20 2010-08-05 02:59:26

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: Saul Bass

Would somebody consider compiling a list of the movies Saul Bass worked on?  Titles, posters - anything.

 

#21 2010-08-05 06:00:27

Tomiskinky
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Re: Saul Bass

That's a good idea, re: Eric Gill, quite a character, was often seen is his tabbard working on the front of the BBC Portland Place, onlookers would glance up, to see he wore nothing underneath? That and his fore mentioned affection for our 4 legged friends.

 

#22 2010-08-29 00:54:25

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: Saul Bass

Definitely in a design&graphics modernist mood at the moment, after dipping into Loewy and devouring the Ivy Book (too greedy of me), so I wanted to bump this thread a bit.  I don't think the ex-Gibson Gardens got a shufti and he likes our hero.

 

#23 2010-08-29 01:44:40

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: Saul Bass

Seems difficult to find a good book on him.

 

#24 2021-11-24 10:05:47

A Fine Sadness
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Re: Saul Bass

Bump - for a graphics vibe I feel coming on.

 

#25 2021-11-24 13:19:22

Runninggeez
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Re: Saul Bass

I have one on him by Jennifer Bass & Pat Kirkham ISBN 9781856697521

 

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