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#51 2009-05-01 04:52:41

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

One of those classic grey sweats I cannot seem to lay my hands on cheap.

 

#52 2009-05-01 04:56:16

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#53 2009-05-01 04:56:21

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

If he did he never said.
You do know that I mean the classic 'University' stripe? (of course you do!). It was always called 'Candy' back then.

Ian wore the classic Brooks in White.

Edit: The above is Re: Ian maybe not liking the Candy stripe. I shoulda quoted Chet. Too late now.

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#54 2009-05-01 04:59:06

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#55 2009-05-01 05:02:44

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#56 2009-05-01 05:10:08

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

Funny, I do love Brooks in white...  but...  university stripe collars seem to soften quicker...  can that be true?

 

#57 2009-05-01 05:12:04

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#58 2009-05-01 05:13:26

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

Mmm...

 

#59 2009-05-01 05:18:04

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

There certainly seems to be a difference in the softness of Baggie, Jim.  I can understand why IS disapproved of the stiffness - first impressions and all that - but the American-made ones seem to acquire a pleasing softness not dissimilar to the Brooks uni. stripe.  The Turkish-made, however, seem pretty unyielding.  The stripes are nice enough, if a bit flash in some cases, but the texture I think leaves something to be desired.

Sorry - this is supposed to be the Kenny thread!

 

#60 2009-05-01 05:20:06

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

Yes Jim I could design us a good website.
Somehow I get the impression D&F is a graphic design amateur if not professional?

Just a side remark, carry on.

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#61 2009-05-01 09:33:24

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

Hello chaps,

Ken Lovegrove, who has bought a 'bake' from Food For Thought on Neal Street every day, except Sundays, since 1981, is a man with his own very precise views on style. I have found him most passionate when proclaiming the joys of the (Old British) Clarks Desert Boot, the all-cotton $1000 dollar Burberry trench (now only made for export - the thick Brits only want trendy mass market crap), and anything to do with bloody Elvis (the appeal of whom I simply do not grasp).

With regards to the comments about the website, which I do, for I am John Gall, in case you didn't know, well I hear what you say, and can't completely agree with the snipes. I do not design websites and have no knowledge, interest or enthusiasm for this area. I do J.Simons one because I love the shop and everything it represents. It was a bit of fun I did for a laugh and, guess what, most people really responded and said they loved it, in spite, nay perhaps because of, its obvious amateurism. The fact is I think web designers get lost up their own backsides far too regularly. They make a mistake if they believe their work is culturally powerful and is making a difference. 50 years from now will people still be talking about 'great websites I used to visit' the way they still talk about an issue of Esquire from 1960 for example? If you think the JS website needs a leg up then speak to Johnny Simons - 020 7379 7353 - he'll let you know where website design is in his table of priorities. There may well be a market for a nicely put together website about the Ivy look. If somebody does a nice job on one I'd be delighted, though I remain highly sceptical about the ability of the internet to move beyond the limitations of a small sheet of plastic screen and produce something which is visually really powerful and of lasting relevance.

GG

 

#62 2009-05-01 09:55:20

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

I hope I've aways supported Mr. Gall & I'm not going to change here.

If you know JS then you'll know that the JS site is very in keeping with the shop & the vibe there.

Left up to Mr. Simons there would be no site.


Could we produce a great Ivy site one day? We haven't yet.


For me I love the charm of the JS site. Because I love the charm of JS.

 

#63 2009-05-01 10:23:21

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I have a dekko at the site at least every other day.  Nothing amiss there.  It was entertaining and informative before and it is now.

On behalf of the old Evertonian Preservation Society.

(What is a 'bake'?  I've kept on thinking about UB40 all this while).

 

#64 2009-05-01 10:28:19

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#65 2009-05-01 10:31:30

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

Stiff plackets are definitely not on.  Hartford every time.

 

#66 2009-05-01 11:48:55

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove


"I like bars just after they open in the evening. When the air inside is still cool and clean and everything is shiny. The first quiet drink of the evening in a quiet bar-that's wonderful."
— Raymond Chandler

 

#67 2009-05-01 11:53:19

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

^ Aha.

You sounded authoritative on fonts the other day.

 

#68 2009-05-01 11:58:27

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove


"I like bars just after they open in the evening. When the air inside is still cool and clean and everything is shiny. The first quiet drink of the evening in a quiet bar-that's wonderful."
— Raymond Chandler

 

#69 2009-05-03 02:37:09

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

Apologies to Ken for taking his good name in vain.  We mean well, but we don't always get it right.

 

#70 2009-05-03 03:25:28

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#71 2009-05-03 03:35:49

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

Sorry for derailing the thread Chetmiles, I got the feeling I had to respond.

 

#72 2009-05-03 04:24:30

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

S'all right.

 

#73 2010-08-08 00:39:11

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

The photographs of Kenny that have surfaced on Facebook are of great interest to me: showing a kicked back - to use Russell's excellent phrase - look that has increasing appeal for me. 
I'm still after that hundred per cent cotton export Burberrys', though.

 

#74 2010-08-08 02:16:54

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

The photos aren't mine to publish but Ian Strachan on his hols last year showed a very similar relaxation into style compared to the man I knew up Hill Rise, Richmond...  If anybody ever really 'knew' The Sage Of The Sebagos. 'Tight lipped & cool' & all that - But wonderfully so.

'It's all about the confidence', as that bloke I'd also like to glass says.   wink

John Lally seems quite consistant in his style on the other hand. He always had that 'self-contained' thing going on. Confidence again?

The more photos we get hold of, the more we can chart this process - A Face is a Face is a Face, but the expression of that way of being changes over the years from that early uber-smartness to a more laid-back style of presentation...

Maybe?

 

#75 2010-08-08 04:07:26

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Re: The style of Mr. Ken Lovegrove

If I can put it this way, I sometimes feel like a man with slightly impaired faculties, but I have to look, rub, sometimes smell whatever it is I'm buying.  Then, at least part of the time, it has to have 'a deep meaning, a double meaning'; and I can see that intensifying as I buy less in order for less to mean more.  I just follow my basic guidelines - which, well outside London, make the hunt all the more invigorating.  I don't necessarily have to know the name; if it looks and feels good...  But I'm plaining it down all the while, particularly in terms of cut and colour.  A lot of blue, muddy green, maroon, some grey and brown.  I suspect Jesmond might have been on this track for longer than most on the forum (with the exception, I'd think, of some of the Richmond guys). 
That's interesting about Ian Strachan, but he was always pretty pared down in the shop, wasn't he? 
I keep a number of suits and smart jackets, but I live from day to day - around the house - in Baggie chambray, ancient RL polos, Bean or Bill's.  Nothing too tight around the waist!

 

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