What was happening whilst Lou fiddled and Simons/Kwintner began empire-building? Whatever became of the man from Dickies?
I'll begin again.
Winds back the clock to - 65?
Who went where, when and why? Prices? West End and Richmond?
Chris, you were there and then. Can you indulge us on this one?
Would Charlie Watts have stuck his nose in, I wonder? Or would he have been having everything made by 65?
I bought only a few items from Austins as it was very expensive for an 17-year-old apprentice in the spring of 64.
First thing I bought was a black & white gingham check seersucker jacket, later I had green/grey/blue madras check jacket and a few Arrow button-downs.
Difficult to recall prices.... I think the jackets were about £17.50-£20 and the shirts roughly £4.
Around the same time Cecil Gee a few doors up had oxford cloth bds and tabs for less than £2.
As we know Charlie, ALO, Georgie and Eric all shopped there early on, I imagine by 65 Eric was moving in a different direction, probably Charlie & ALO were buying their ivy threads in US.
Last edited by Chris_H (2010-09-12 04:12:52)
Not really, I just mostly shopped in town.
I was unaware of Austins'. Despite being in and out of Dobell's at 77 Charing Cross Rd most Saturday mornings, I didn't wander up that end of Shaftesbury Ave.
My first Ivy purchases were from the Ivy Shop in '65 - shirts initially, but then half-lined herringbone tweed jackets and loafers. My recollection of prices is very patchy, but I do have a feeling that my first pair of Royal wingtip brogues from John Simons cost me just over £5 - it did feel like an awful lot of money at the time but I felt like King Dick wearing them. At that time people would judge you by your shoes and those Royal brogues said a lot about you before anyone spoke.
I saw Eric Clapton in 1965 in a jacket that was pretty much identical to mine - and there weren't many other places you could buy them at that time. I can't verify for sure but Eric dropping into The Ivy Shop in Richmond seems very likely. Tony 'Top' Topham, who was replaced in the Yardbirds by Eric, and is still a good friend of mine was wearing a fine Madras jacket in the Autumn of 1965 - and that came off the rack at the Ivy Shop. We were all wearing that stuff then.
This is the stuff the troops like. More please, more.
Predating Robbie, Stax and several others by quite a few years if Chris was 17 in 1964. I always loved these threads - and still do.
I have a couple of cousins that would be the same age as Chris. We still meet up for a few drinks. Never really talk too much about clothes although in the extended family dressing well is a given with all the males and it goes down the generations. My cousins grew up in East London Poplar, Bethnal Green, Stepney Green. In the 60s there were Jewish tailors everywhere. They didn't buy off the peg because it wasn't difficult to buy material and get suits made up. The American influence may have been less for them but even today they still wear button down shirts, sometimes Harrington jackets, pea coats and other clothes we might recognise as Ivy.
I will have to ask them where they shopped back in the 60s. I know they knew of Austins. One cousin owned the first pair of Levi's I ever saw back in about 63. He now refuses to wear jeans and tends to look down on me when I turn up in Lee selvedge jeans