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#26 2009-05-05 18:48:09

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#27 2009-05-06 03:02:40

Gibson Gardens
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

Chetmiles - the passeggiata. And every place, big or small, has a prescribed route to follow, usually ending up at a particularly fine view or building then stopping for conversation with friends and family and then going back again to where you started. It's pointless wandering, something we don't do in this Godforesaken pleasure-free, visually illiterate country. I'm off to Bologna, Florence and Ferrara tomorrow to check out the coffee bars with Hubert Swaine and a couple of other fellow travellers. I may not come back...

GG

 

#28 2009-05-06 05:35:31

chetmiles
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

Isn't it beautiful?  Just like all those guys I saw lunching together in Ostuni the other year: so natural, so relaxed, so absolutely at ease with one another in a way it is virtually impossible to imagine in England: all sweaty armpits, gaseous lager and farting.  "You want to have what with me?  Are you a queer or what?". 
I saw the passeggiata in Brindisi, and the little kids playing in the squares in Venice: in the ghetto: bringing out their toys and running around without fear of traffic. 
I don't care either what these guys say about Italy - like you I'm sold.  I'm only sorry I may not get there this year - France instead, with the family.  There's a terrific cafe in Florence that does deep-fried vegetables.  Do come back, but in your own sweet time...

 

#29 2009-05-06 12:49:54

The Ace Face
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?


Draped and sculpted hep cat suit - as worn by His Royal Hepness, Cab Calloway

 

#30 2009-05-06 12:57:58

chetmiles
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

Italian shoes can be bloody awful.  My Italian desert boots are nice, ditto some soft loafers that make my young daughter's friends howl with laughter because they're now curling up at the ends.  My wife said the Gucci driving shoes I once had made me look like a pimp.  She has a habit of saying things like that. 

At least MacInnes didn't care much for pubs.

 

#31 2009-05-06 13:05:14

The Ace Face
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

Indeed, Italian shoes tend to be three sizes larger than the declared size, with an unnecessary phallic descent into annal attempts at being the longest pointiest shoe possible. Clown like springs to mind, much like their political leader.


Draped and sculpted hep cat suit - as worn by His Royal Hepness, Cab Calloway

 

#32 2009-05-06 14:10:54

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#33 2009-05-06 14:55:27

1966
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#34 2009-05-06 15:19:49

The Ace Face
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

Piero never fails, I source all my Italian soundtracks from Moviegrooves in Oxford (not a plug, by the way).  If you can't make it to Cadiz, the next best thing is Sketches of Spain, preferably Miles's version and the final page of Hemmingway's The Sun Also Rises/Fiesta.


Draped and sculpted hep cat suit - as worn by His Royal Hepness, Cab Calloway

 

#35 2009-05-07 05:23:43

Prof Kelp
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?


http://thetownoutside.tumblr.com

 

#36 2009-05-07 06:36:26

chetmiles
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Posts: 1099

Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

I once had, I once had...  I've been married more than once, man!  No, seriously, I'd always wanted a pair.  No, don't ask me why...

 

#37 2010-02-25 00:00:17

shamrockmonkey
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?


I brush my teeth with minty paste/I hate when Liquor goes to waste.

 

#38 2010-08-15 01:03:58

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

I feel more deeply about this now than at the time of that initial posting.  Loewy/Bel Goodfella style.  It's a frame of mind that has its component parts.  I'm not much of a consumer, other than of what I need to stay alive and mentally healthy.  That's why the Italian weather and people do it for me.  That's why orange juice and a laundered Brooks shirt do it for me. 

I could never 'shop for England'.

 

#39 2010-08-15 02:17:44

4F Hepcat
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

Austerity appears to be the new mantra of our age and not without good reason.  There's a growing awareness that all these mass consumer brands have actually been selling out and taking advantage of the gullible for quite some time, RL is a case in point. It's impossible for me to look at someone wearing a RL logo shirt and not think 'sucker'.  And as it happens, I'm wearing one now.  Strictly relegated to dossing around the house and the garden.

It is indeed a frame of mind: uncluttered, crisp, clean and focused on the essence.

This is the direction I've been moving in for sometime. Shamrockmonkey, Eris and Hattrick have delivered ultimate Ivy jackets and sack suits that are now the foundation of my wardrobe.  Combined with white OCBD's and repp ties, there's very little else one needs to stay sartorially healthy and smart.

I look at some of the other stuff in my wardrobe, Italian suits, cut-away collars, French cuffs and I think, 'Dandy-shit'. Its unnaturally stylised and has to go. Purged to the local charity shop, but I still haven't done this yet. But the time will come, and its not far away, when all I will need is half a dozen shirts, the suit and jackets I've already got, half a dozen khakis and a couple of pairs of Aldens in #8.


Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound

 

#40 2010-08-15 02:29:49

Rip Rig & Panic
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#41 2010-09-28 03:53:08

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

I still try and stick to this principle.

No tobacco, no alcohol.  Natural fibres.  Eliminate the inessentials.

 

#42 2010-09-28 04:47:18

Toffeeman
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

I live austerely but would die without red wine, grappa and espresso. These, I worry, I am now addicted to. I was teetotal between the ages of 17 and 27 and never missed it but a drink now makes food, and life, taste better. I do though admire your abstinence and self-control. I am utterly bored by those entranced by the oblivion drink and drugs offer.

TM

 

#43 2010-09-28 04:51:46

Daniele
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#44 2010-09-28 04:53:30

Rip Rig & Panic
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

Italy is the land of my dreams and my imagination.  I was taken there at an impressionable age.

The desert boots are also very fine.

 

#45 2010-09-28 04:58:10

Rip Rig & Panic
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#46 2010-09-28 05:49:07

Toffeeman
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

"Coloro che mancano gli occhi non dovrebbero cercare di vestirsi nel nostro stile, perche' sono tutti i detagli"

Or somefink like that guv'nor.

TM

 

#47 2010-09-28 06:01:37

Gmajor7th
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

Daniele tell them all to vaffanculo.

 

#48 2010-09-28 06:28:19

heikki k
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Posts: 1442

Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

i have no real experience on italy aka. never visited the country nor do i speak the language, but i have a great admiration towards italian cuisine with it's hundreds of different branches. also, i love italian (red) wines, admire italian design, architecture and art, past and present. us lot in finland can never even dream of claiming as rich a cultural heritage than italy.

we were all peasants - and basically still are - a hundred years ago.

i'm not going to venture into politics, our leaders are also shite, only in a different way.

as for italian tailoring, cannot complain on the grey flannell zegna suit i've got.

 

#49 2010-09-28 07:01:30

Rip Rig & Panic
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#50 2010-09-28 08:46:16

heikki k
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Re: modernist austerity - anyone for it?

was supposed to spend the honeymoon trip in firenze when i got married. we ended up in london instead..

 

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