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#1 2007-01-17 13:17:14
- Terry Lean
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"Ivy for Everyone" ?
I often say this as a neat (?) 'strap line'.
It's based on a picture of Keith Moon in a white jeans jacket wearing a large badge that says 'Elvis for Everyone'.
The point of it is just what it says:
Everyone.
I don't rule out Brahmins, 'Trads', or guys who used to shoplift from the Ivy Shop back in the day - Hello Ron!
I honestly just love these clothes.
They can mean whatever you want them to mean or they can mean nothing at all.
All aspects of the Ivy League style interest me... and the style IS huge.
My petty little snipes on the MBs are only to remind people that none of us own this style of clothing.
Ivy is no more ALL about America's 'elite' than it is ALL about Chet Baker's Blazer on his 'In New York' LP sleeve.
'Trad' is valid but it is only a fragment of this style of clothes. Same with Chet Baker's Blazer.
If you are interested in the style then why not be interested in it?
Every twist & turn.
The subject is much more interesting that way.
If you're into social class then find yourself a social class forum maybe?
If you like clothes then we're on the same wavelength.
(End of Mission Statement!)
"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"
#3 2007-01-18 01:05:14
- Terry Lean
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"
#4 2007-01-21 12:41:44
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
http://www.amazon.com/Chet-Baker-New-York/dp/B000000YBK/sr=8-1/qid=1169408089/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0797354-2453465?ie=UTF8&s=music
Chet Baker's Blazer.
Don't imagine for one minute he's dressed like this to identify himself with America's 'elite' like 'Dopey' on SF - Check the date - These clothes were everywhere & Hip back then.
Be happy about this.
Have a drink.
kiss a girl.
Life is more interesting than you might know!
"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"
#5 2007-01-21 16:15:40
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
Whoever Ivy is for, it is now statistically, as well as logically, clear that MB posters are a small fraction of the industry.
On AAAT today there was a post stating that only 10% of O'Connells business comes from internet sales. O'Connells, undeniably a great source for Ivy League and preppy clothing and one at which I have been tempted to shop on an in-person field trip, is held up along with Press etc. there. Yet at best, those posters, and we, represent only 10% of the sales.
So quite clearly, those who suspect misterman, etc. of "not listening to our voices" are probably correct. The online voice of TNSIL (regardless of how it is interpreted by said voices) is clearly a small one compared to the flesh and blood.
In a way, that's reassuring, both because no misrepresntation of the style is realistically occuring, and also because it means the numbers of those who faithfully sport our favorite style are not limited to, well, us and a few of our offline friends.
The elephant in the room in that last sentence means they'll keep selling it. Color me relieved.
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#6 2007-01-21 17:49:34
- JamesT
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
My guess is that the main or diehard "trad" audience does not waste their time or care enough to post about it on message boards; they simply wear it because they find the style suits them.
#8 2007-01-22 01:07:21
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
My next mission is to encourage more people to have drinks & kiss girls!
The old MBs are a world in a bubble it's true... I wonder what the big wide world actually thinks of it all? Those few who are actually aware that any of this exists.
Mr. misterman was certainly aware of what was being said on the forums. Why the forums think he should be 'listening to them' is another matter.
Life goes on and the world keeps turning...
A trip to O'Connells would be very good. We could hire a bus.
"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"
#10 2007-01-22 10:19:07
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
1% is supposed to be the ratio of internet posters compared to lurkers. It was in the Guardian last year.
"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"
#12 2007-01-22 11:30:04
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
I can't say I'm suprised. I'm sure a lot of people are too self-concious or intimidated by other posters to write their own opinions.
#14 2007-01-22 11:58:37
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
Don't forget that all lurkers, once they do post, will be subject to endless judgement and critique of their clothing (said clothing not being up to par with those "masters of the mbs") and mockery based on whatever appropriate style they fall under.
#15 2007-01-22 12:20:17
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
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"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"
#17 2007-01-23 01:54:49
- Terry Lean
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Re: "Ivy for Everyone" ?
"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"