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#51 2010-12-15 02:59:24

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#52 2010-12-15 04:01:38

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Re: A message from a Melbourne tailor + some of his work

The history of tailoring is that in the old days cuts were poorly engineered and the tailor had to rely on a lot of manipulation and correction to fix the bloody mess. It was very time consuming.

As time has progressed, every generation of cutter has improved the engineering so that less tailoring skill is required to achieve a satisfactory end, or even a superior one. It's about skill and innovation. I happen to think that is worth paying more money for.

Unfortunately, there is this regressive mentality making its round to the effect that older methods are superior because they are more time consuming. The argument goes that if it is more time consuming it must be superior. These people are locked into this circular thinking, and it is impossible to get them to snap out of it. They become very aggressive when you try and their argument goes something along the lines of "betrayal of tradition" blah blah. When pushed they defend the most Baroque cutting theories as being superior to modern ones because if it is old, it must be better since it is more traditional, doubly so since these ancient systems are painfully time consuming to troubleshoot. And since it is time consuming it must be better - and worth paying more money for.

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#53 2010-12-15 05:18:13

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Re: A message from a Melbourne tailor + some of his work


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#54 2010-12-15 05:21:36

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#55 2010-12-15 05:42:35

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#56 2010-12-15 05:45:47

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Re: A message from a Melbourne tailor + some of his work


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#57 2010-12-15 05:49:25

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Re: A message from a Melbourne tailor + some of his work

My forum seems to be cluttered with those who feel old and time consuming methodology = good.

However, there are many tailors stuck in that trap. Old houses that stick to very old cutting methods as the basis of their "house style" (ie the period costume from when the house was founded) are also prone to this sort of thinking.

Even if you find a method of engineering that makes one thing quicker, it hardly speeds up the entire process. It just allows you concentrate more on things you would rather be concentrating on eg minor aspects of fit and style. Rather than getting the train working at all you concentrate on making the train design so that it is faster, quieter, smoother etc. It doesn't really save time at all, nor you money. However, it gives you a better product overall.

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#58 2010-12-15 05:54:41

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#59 2010-12-15 05:55:43

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Re: A message from a Melbourne tailor + some of his work


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#60 2010-12-15 06:07:48

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Re: A message from a Melbourne tailor + some of his work


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#61 2010-12-15 06:10:45

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This thread assumes that no tailor but that mysterious Australian master is capable of cutting a decent collar on a coat. That is the reason why said tailor charges more money than igent darling Rubinacci, even though he cuts corners on cosmetic things which scream "custom" e.g. handmade buttonholes, and which alot of bespoke customers demand from a high-class suit. The only thing we've seen from this tailor is a coat which looks like shit even when drapped over a hanger with a laple buttonhole I wouldn't accept on a 50 dollar suit, let alone a 6000 custom one.

I now expect the shooman to write some drivel on how he doesn't have to explain himself, how I'm not better than your average igent blablabla.

If it wasn't for Sator's really interesting statements, this thread would be right at home on the Inanity Post

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#62 2010-12-15 06:11:03

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#63 2010-12-15 06:16:07

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#64 2010-12-15 06:20:44

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#65 2010-12-15 06:24:34

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Re: A message from a Melbourne tailor + some of his work


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#66 2010-12-15 07:05:12

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#67 2010-12-15 12:09:17

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