Thanks Tony, preppy, fnb, horace for those explanations.
It a bit like what I thought. Like a lot of things it makes sense in context. And that context is largely USA (East Coast?) clothing history.
It explains why to my untrained (in USA nuances) eye it seemed to work in tweedy jackets but not otherwise. Tweedy jackets with 2 /3 are likely to be sacks, in USA, worn when cold so buttoning all the way is useful and not formal.
Outside the context - say especially here in Oz, its only meister and shooey and perhaps wrigglez, who'd even notice it wasn't a cigarette burn and even then shooey doesn't like it. So unless I bump into meister accidentally in Pitt St on one of my few visits to Tinsel Town there will be no one to nod and wink to my "discreet charm of the boozey tweed*"
I also can see the problems with 3 buttons suits mass produced and not tailor made. My first suit when I left school at 17 was a 3 button, 3 piece, single vent with a high fully pleated vent. Nothing that special - off the hook - but in old photos it seems to look better than most 3 buttons I've seen. I didn't keep it but from memory it was very waisted and skirted. (Had to be to show off the pleated vent I spose - iGentry starts early doesn't it - I can remember that the pleated vent was a big detail to me then.)
* bad pun on Buñuel
Last edited by Tailoring Police (2011-02-14 19:54:22)
Do these guys realize how bad they look?
l wonder what crusty gets up to behind closed doors. l bet he gets up to ALOT.
Last edited by Sammy Ambrose (2011-02-15 07:22:59)
I like crusty. I've worked with guys like him before and I'm sure he'd be a bloody delight to work with. He'd always look good - dressing his own way - no wearing a suit to show he was better than others, not looking like he was trying too hard, he'd be respected by all.
I'm just disappointed he's gone over to SF - I hope he doesn't take any advice from the apprentice ballers and sprezz dopes.
Last edited by Sammy Ambrose (2011-02-18 05:58:37)
sammy - I reckon crusty looks like what wants to look like and that it doesn't take him much effort or angst - he just does it and it turns out like we see. I've known guys like him who are perplexed that others can't "just do it"
I may however be very wrong and he's really a slob who would naturally dress in oversized double pleated baggy chinos, white sneakers and green branded polo each day and has to struggle to put himself into a clean shirt and a suit.
Last edited by The_Shooman (2011-02-18 22:46:39)
Following on from FNB above - I've alway thought it would be good to see a TV show like those cooking shows whereby you give people ingredients and see that they can make of it.
You could have a selection of shirts for each person that were a range of sizes from tooo big to tooo small to badly fitted in a range of colours etc and collars and so on with ties and pants and jackets and belts and shoes and socks and see what people came up with given say 20 minutes to get dressed..
FNB is right there would be some horrors.
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