I used to have a few with a tie bar. From over here I still see them as Beatles/Rolling Stones era and with skinny ties and narrow lapels.

Affectation? I dunno - His is an affectation - Yours works ok - Mine is stylish

I'd say keep to white only, wide collar not skinny and tab or tie bar. Can't see the point without a tie

Oh ahh I made a little unintentional joke - you can't see the point anyway with a club collar.

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There aren't many people who have confidence in wearing dress shirts with rounded or club collars. I admire you for getting this idea of dressing in one. And about wearing it without a tie, the answer is no. I've been looking at the pictures of of club-collared shirts in the web and I haven't seen one that does not include a necktie.

4F, I honestly don't think anyone even notices it that much. Granted I trend toward the Ivy end of things.  But particularly on a white shirt. It's so subtle.

Compare: A bowtie is noticed. A fedora is definitely noticed. Ascots (though cool in other situations) and spats are well beyond the pale of this post. We can and have debated for days on whether one can wear some or all of these items without drawing ridicule/ostracism. 

I would say that a rounded collar is FAR less likely to be noticed--let alone criticized-- than any of the foregoing examples.  Even less so if you wear it without the collar bar.

I am a lawyer in midtown and my office wears suits daily. Although I also wear button downs and forward points, I do wear club collars on a fairly regular basis, to court, etc.  Nobody looks at me funny. Almost never does anyone say anything. One or two people have asked me where I got them (Brooks). It was in an interested, not a skeptical, way. No one in my office has ever commented on club collars.

Again, c.f.: I occasionally wear bowties (I have 3, outside of formal ones). In the summer. Madras. Let's say every 7-8 weeks during the warmer months.  This gets a lot more attention and commentary than a club collar ever has.




I see absolutely no reason not to wear them, but I think they would look silly without a tie, much like the tab collar.

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redwing is kinda hoity-toity for the cheeseheads. 20 dollar boots from k-mart. sartorial ostentation doesnt contrast well with morbid obesity and pockmarks. unless its the harley edition redwing with lots of superflous buckles, zips, metal kickplates, etc. those are for church and court.

cooly's comments were addressed to mr. cat, and i was addressing those. i rarely see civil engineers (i think thats what the guy does) on my jobs wearing sportcoats, much less real shoes, much less suits. i dont see the brooks-type stiffer club as a business-casual kinda thing... still say it might look affected in that context.

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Oooh! The 1920's schoolboy look. Best with + fours IMO.

This style part of trend.